On 11 Aug 2011, at 15:46, Tsuyoshi Ito wrote: > Hi Henry > > I think it is not a OS X bug. I have the same issue on my ubuntu. BTW Reto is > also working on a linux distribution.
Ok, so it's a OSX and ubuntu bug then :-) Solaris does not have the problem. Btw. I am using java7 on both osx and solaris. It's probably worth reporting that. > I am pretty sure that few months ago the graphs were very small when > launching the platform the first time. > > IMO our sesame provider is not an alternative because it is extremely slow > compared to tdb. that's why trialox has changed the default provider to tdb > in 2009. Sesame has a large number of sails. Which one(s) were slow? Btw http://www.systap.com/bigdata.htm looks very interesting. I suppose the GPL license is problematic. Henry > > Cheers > Tsuy > > On Aug 11, 2011, at 2:15 PM, Henry Story wrote: > >> >> On 11 Aug 2011, at 10:56, Henry Story wrote: >> >>> >>> On 10 Aug 2011, at 15:59, Tsuyoshi Ito wrote: >>> >>>> Hi >>>> >>>> I tried to copy a felix-cache (latest platform without additional >>>> resources in the graphs) from one pc to another. During the copy process I >>>> realized that each graph is exactly 201,4MB on my mac. So a platform with >>>> no extra data is about 1.2GB - quite big. Each additional graph is using >>>> also 200MB. >>>> >>>> Has this to do with the update of tdb? 3-4 month ago a graph with no >>>> triples was very small. >>>> >>>> Is it possible to reduce the file size? >> >> It looks like this is a OSX bug. On Solaris with my live version of clerezza >> at >> http://foafssl.org/srv/idp >> which has been running for a few days now, and which has a few graphs I get >> reasonable graph sizes >> >> $ du -h -d 2 felix-cache/bundle100 >> 15K felix-cache/bundle100/version0.0 >> 226K >> felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/graph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fcache%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fid.myopenlink.net%2Fdataspace%2Fperson%2FKingsleyUyiIdehen1 >> 225K >> felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/graph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fcache%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Ffoaf.me%2Fflorent >> 226K >> felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/graph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fcache%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fdata.kontroversen.de%2Ffoaf.rdf >> 227K >> felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/graph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fcache%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fwebid.myxwiki.org%2Fxwiki%2Fbin%2Fview%2FXWiki%2Fsnapgull >> 231K >> felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/graph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fcache%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.anjeve.de%2Ffoaf.rdf >> 225K >> felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/graph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fcache%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.turnguard.com%2Fturnguard >> 228K >> felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/graph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fcache%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fwebid.myxwiki.org%2Fxwiki%2Fbin%2Fview%2FXWiki%2Ffish2010 >> 224K >> felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/graph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fcache%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fdavelevy.info%2Ffoaf.rdf >> 224K >> felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/graph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fcache%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Ffoaf.me%2Fgihandias >> 225K >> felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/graph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fcache%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fbblfish.net%2F >> 258K >> felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/graph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fcache%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fbblfish.net%2Fpeople%2Fhenry%2Fcard >> 225K >> felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/graph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fcache%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fmelvincarvalho.com%2F >> 227K >> felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/graph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fcache%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fid.myopenlink.net%2Fdataspace%2Fperson%2Ftthibodeau >> 223K >> felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/graph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Ftbox.graph >> 223K >> felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/graph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fcache%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fcgulls.dontexist.org%2Fwebid%2Fwebid.php%3Fname%3Dniclas >> 223K >> felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/graph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fcache%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.bergnet.org%2Fpeople%2Fbergi%2Fcard >> 228K >> felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/graph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fcache%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FPeople%2FBerners-Lee%2Fcard >> 224K >> felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/graph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fcache%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Ffoaf.me%2Fdguardiola >> 224K >> felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/graph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fcache%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Ffoaf.me%2Fah1 >> 224K >> felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/graph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fcache%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fwebid.fcns.eu%2Fpeople%2Fgebhardt%2Fcard >> 226K >> felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/graph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fcache%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fbigasterisk.com%2Ffoaf.rdf >> 223K >> felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/graph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fcache%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Ftest.com%2F >> 4.9M felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/graph >> 222K >> felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/mgraph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fuser%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Ffoaf.me%2Fdguardiola >> 222K >> felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/mgraph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fuser%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fwebid.myxwiki.org%2Fxwiki%2Fbin%2Fview%2FXWiki%2Fsnapgull >> 222K >> felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/mgraph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fuser%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fid.myopenlink.net%2Fdataspace%2Fperson%2FKingsleyUyiIdehen1 >> 223K >> felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/mgraph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fcontent.graph >> 227K >> felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/mgraph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fsystem.graph >> 222K >> felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/mgraph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fuser%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fwebid.myxwiki.org%2Fxwiki%2Fbin%2Fview%2FXWiki%2Ffish2010 >> 227K >> felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/mgraph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fconfig.graph >> 222K >> felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/mgraph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fuser%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fbblfish.net%2F >> 222K >> felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/mgraph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fuser%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.bergnet.org%2Fpeople%2Fbergi%2Fcard >> 222K >> felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/mgraph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fuser%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fmelvincarvalho.com%2F >> 228K >> felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/mgraph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fgraph-access.graph >> 608K >> felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/mgraph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fweb-resources-cache.graph1312967243159 >> 222K >> felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/mgraph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fuser%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fwebid.fcns.eu%2Fpeople%2Fgebhardt%2Fcard >> 222K >> felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/mgraph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fuser%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fcgulls.dontexist.org%2Fwebid%2Fwebid.php%3Fname%3Dniclas >> 222K >> felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/mgraph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fuser%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fcgulls.dontexist.org%2F%7Efiona%2Ffiona.rdf >> 222K >> felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/mgraph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fuser%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Ffoaf.me%2Fgihandias >> 222K >> felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/mgraph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fuser%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fdata.kontroversen.de%2Ffoaf.rdf >> 224K >> felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/mgraph/https%3A%2F%2Fbblfish.net%2Fuser%2Fadmin%2Fprofile >> 222K >> felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/mgraph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fuser%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fid.myopenlink.net%2Fdataspace%2Fperson%2Ftthibodeau >> 222K >> felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/mgraph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fuser%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Ffoaf.me%2Fflorent >> 222K >> felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/mgraph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fuser%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fcgulls.dontexist.org%2F%7Efiona%2Ffiona.xml >> 222K >> felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/mgraph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fuser%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Ftest.com%2F >> 222K >> felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/mgraph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fuser%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.turnguard.com%2Fturnguard >> 222K >> felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/mgraph/urn%3Ax-localinstance%3A%2Fuser%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fbblfish.net%2Fpeople%2Fhenry%2Fcard >> 5.6M felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data/mgraph >> 11M felix-cache/bundle100/data/tdb-data >> 11M felix-cache/bundle100/data >> 11M felix-cache/bundle100 >> >> It would be interesting to compare those sizes with Sesame. >> >> >>> >>> Thanks for pointing that out. I just checked the size of bundle 100 and >>> just on my pretty empty test >>> database that I run locally and delete every so often, it is 1.5GB! >>> >>> $ du -d 2 -h felix-cache/bundle100/ >>> 1.5G felix-cache/bundle100//data/tdb-data >>> 1.5G felix-cache/bundle100//data >>> 16K felix-cache/bundle100//version0.0 >>> 1.5G felix-cache/bundle100/ >>> >>> So for the Social Web applications I am working where I would like to work >>> with a lot of graphs, this is not good. I'd like to know the reason for >>> this. But it does look like a reason to switch to Sesame otherwise... >>> >>> Henry >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> Tsuy >>>> >>> >>> Social Web Architect >>> http://bblfish.net/ >>> >> >> Social Web Architect >> http://bblfish.net/ >> > > --trialox ag-------------------------------------- > > Tsuyoshi Ito > Hardturmstrasse 101 > CH-8005 Zürich > URL: http://trialox.org > Social Web Architect http://bblfish.net/
