On Nov 4, 6:12 pm, Rich Hickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The CPL doesn't allow me to choose the GPL.
>
> You've got this completely backwards - the GPL doesn't allow you to  
> combine with certain things, whereas the CPL is fine with it.

I know that, but the fact is, the GPL has been widely used for a long
time, and consciously choosing a GPL-incompatible license in this
scenario means preventing users from making use of a lot of existing
code.

Circumstance has it that there is a conflict between the CPL and the
GPL.  This doesn't make either the CPL or the GPL a bad license.  It
does make it more important to think about the choice of license and
the practical consequences thereof.


> Completely untrue - the CPL makes no requirements whatsoever on  
> libraries with which it is combined. The problem lies with GPL.

Again, it's not the license itself, it's the _choice_ of license that
I'm talking about.


> > Therefore, by choosing the CPL, you're making a political statement
> > against a sizable part of the Free Software movement.  This ought not
> > to be done without thorough consideration, I think.
>
> I'm not making any statement. Some people who choose the GPL end up  
> with restrictions about which they are unhappy.  LGPL and classpath  
> exceptions exist for a reason.

Yes, but you _could_ choose a slightly different license, right?  A
license just like the CPL, but without a choice-of-law clause?  Which
could make a lot of people happy?

You have no obligation to do so, moral or otherwise, and I'm not
trying to make you look evil for choosing GPL incompatibility or
anything.  You may say the GPL crowd's unhappiness about the CPL is
their own fault, not yours -- and you're right.  The license choice is
up to you.  I'm just trying to explain what the problem is, and that
there is a political aspect to it that one might overlook easily.

Matthias
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