Sayth, check out these examples and see if they clarify anything for you.

user=> nil
nil

user=> (if nil "nil is truthy" "nil is falsey")
"nil is falsey"

user=> (nil? nil)
true

user=> (if (nil? nil) "(nil? nil)=true is truthy" "(nil? nil)=true is
falsey")
"(nil? nil)=true is truthy"

user=> (number? nil)
false

user=> (if (number? nil) "(number? nil)=false is truthy" "(number?
nil)=false is falsey")
"(number? nil)=false is falsey"


Andy


On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 12:09 AM, Sayth Renshaw <flebber.c...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>
> On Monday, 30 January 2017 19:02:08 UTC+11, Sayth Renshaw wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, 30 January 2017 18:53:44 UTC+11, Alan Forrester wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> > Hi
>>> >
>>> > If nil is true
>>> >
>>> > clojure-noob.core> (nil? nil)
>>> > true
>>> >
>>> > Then why doesn't nil return from this statement as the first true
>>> value?
>>>
>>> This expression is a function invocation. The function is the first item
>>> in the list and the argument is the second. So this expression asks if nil
>>> is nil, which is true.
>>>
>>> I cut the rest of your examples since they make similar mistakes. You
>>> don’t understand clojure very well, you may want to read the docs:
>>>
>>> https://clojure.org/reference/reader
>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fclojure.org%2Freference%2Freader&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNFZbto4LI2e6dV6ebx1OiG-iOCg-A>
>>>
>>> This isn’t an attack, just a statement of fact.
>>>
>>> Alan
>>
>>
>> lol Alan I was, reading clojure for the brave and new reading the or
>> syntax I didn't understand
>>
>> though I read https://clojuredocs.org/clojure.core/or
>>
>> reading your link now.
>>
>> Sayth
>>
>
>
> My confusion is that nil is false and will return true if nil false on all
> other truthy values. It's a double negative same as
>
> clojure-noob.core> (false? false)
> true
>
> This is the better link https://clojuredocs.org/clojure.core/nil_q
>
> user=> (nil? nil)trueuser=> (nil? 0)falseuser=> (nil? false)falseuser=> (nil? 
> '())
>
> false
>
>
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