Yes, if you have a 'product' perspective, but others will have a service provider perspective and would like to see employers committed to Clojure and looking to engage with practitioners.+
On Sunday, March 26, 2017 at 4:49:45 AM UTC+11, Dragan Djuric wrote: > > > Isn't it advantageous in some sense to have access to stuff that your > competition doesn't have? > > On Friday, March 24, 2017 at 11:05:24 PM UTC+1, piast...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> > This did get me thinking though. If the community *did* want to score >> highly >> > on some of these metrics, what would those be? >> >> I'll be happy so long as Clojure is the popular choice for doing the >> things where it's advantages should matter: machine learning, AI, NLP, >> concurrent programming. >> >> It drives me crazy that Python is doing so well in all of the areas where >> Clojure should be winning. There are such beautiful libraries for working >> with vectors and matrices with Clojure, which should obviously help with >> NLP, yet people use Python instead. Likewise, so much of machine learning >> should be done as work in parallel, and Clojure makes that easy, yet Python >> is preferred. Drives me crazy. >> >> These last few years I've been at a lot of NLP startups, and the choice >> of Python makes me sad. >> >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 7:17:10 PM UTC-4, Luke Burton wrote: >>> >>> >>> On Mar 22, 2017, at 2:26 PM, Gregg Reynolds <d...@mobileink.com> wrote: >>> >>> very interesting stuff, esp. the sociological bits: >>> >>> http://stackoverflow.com/insights/survey/2017 >>> >>> sadly, clojure does not even rank in popularity. but it's number 1 in >>> pay worldwide. o sweet vengeance! >>> >>> >>> Some fun reading in there, Clojure features a couple of times. It would >>> be fun to watch for spikes in traffic to Clojure related resources, because >>> I'm sure that landing "most highly paid" will cause a few people to sit up >>> and take notice. >>> >>> This did get me thinking though. If the community *did* want to score >>> highly on some of these metrics, what would those be? Or do none of them >>> adequately capture what is valued by the Clojure community? >>> >>> I think I'd claim that popularity is a terrible metric, even though it >>> can be gratifying to be popular. The fact that lots of people do a >>> particular thing doesn't mean that thing is inherently good, or worth >>> striving for. Some very popular things are bad lifestyle choices, like >>> smoking, a diet high in sugary foods, and writing JavaScript. >>> >>> Conversely some very, very good things can die from even the perception >>> of being unpopular. We often get people asking on the subreddit why they >>> find so many "abandoned" libraries in Clojure. The fact a piece of software >>> might have been written years ago, and still be perfectly usable, is such >>> an anomaly in more "popular" languages that people assume we've all curled >>> up and died. I recently had a project steered away from Clojure (suffice to >>> say it was a very good fit, I thought) due to concerns around the >>> availability of Clojure programmers in the long term. In Silicon Valley. >>> Where you can throw a rock in the air and be certain it will hit a >>> programmer on the way down. >>> >>> Anyway, my personal metric for Clojure success would be: "for projects >>> where Clojure is an appropriate technical fit, how often are you able to >>> choose Clojure?" It's a selfish metric but the higher it goes, the happier >>> I am ;) >>> >>> Luke. >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
