Just as a note, you should probably use `doseq` when you want to produce side 
effects.

Erik.

> On 7 Feb 2019, at 12:04, Pierpaolo Tofani <pierpaolo.tof...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi
> i am new in clojure sorry. 
> In the snippet of code i used two map functions only to produce side effects 
> on two ref. 
> Even using doall no affect is produced on ref aaa and zzz, seems that the 
> sequence is still lazy.
> But if i remove the final :done , and the repl show me the sequence produced 
> (that i don't care) the ref aaa and zzz are affected.Thanks in advance.
> PS The two map are in effect doing a for.
> 
> (def aaa (ref 0))
> (def zzz (ref 0))
> (def s1 [1 2 3 4 5])
> (def s2 [1 2 3 4 5])
> (defn make-side []
> (do   
> (doall   
> (map
>   (fn [x]
>     (map
>       (fn [y]
>         (dosync
>           (alter aaa inc)
>           (alter zzz dec)
>         )
>         )
>       s2))
>   s1)
> )
> :done
> )
> )
> 
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