Hi,

On Apr 9, 4:56 am, Phil Hagelberg <p...@hagelb.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 3:32 PM, Stefan Kamphausen
>
> <ska2...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > In the long run the Clojure community should either create an
> > "official" fork of SLIME (and try to port the good stuff, that happens
> > in SLIME) or try to work closer together with the fine SLIME folks.  I
> > don't think that we should risk losing the Emacs users, because they
> > may be very happy to find a usable way of leveraging Java's wealth
> > without having to type Java ;-)  And the frequency of Emacs-setup-
> > related posts in the near past should tell us that things are not too
> > well right now.
>
> You'll notice 90% of the "I'm having trouble with Emacs" posts have
> one thing in common: they all start with "I'm trying to install
> without ELPA".

I plead guilty.  As Tassilo wrote just recently in one of the other
threads, I am very suspicious towards such magic.  For more than 15
years I either had my distribution take care of libraries or did it
myself.  When XEmacs started creating packages it was one of my
reasons for switching to GNU Emacs.

Using automagic tools is always a nice option for beginners, though.

But then, this is just how I like to handle things.

> I would like to keep swank in line with upstream slime, but it is a
> lot of work. There are just so many more valuable things to work on
> right now... when using an older version of slime is such a
> low-friction solution, it's hard to justify the amount of work it
> would take to bring everything up to date with the latest, especially
> given the fact that slime "doesn't do stable releases". Though Hugo
> has done a fair bit of this work, and I'm grateful for that. If anyone
> else is keen on the latest slime then I'd be glad to get contributions
> from them too.


Of course I see the amount of work, esp. since I am following Slime
development and I know how fast it moves from time to time.

However, since many people like to use HEAD CVS SLIME for developing
Common Lisp (HEAD is often considered the only version working with
latest SBCL) there is a big problem for all people who want to use
Clojure AND CL.  For that scenario a fork of SLIME seems to be the
only usable way, so that you can still use HEAD SLIME for SBCL and
CLOJIME (or whatever ;-) for Clojure.

Or am I mistaken?

Kind regards,
Stefan

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