Hello! On 10 Apr., 18:57, Phil Hagelberg <p...@hagelb.org> wrote:
> > Like Ævar, I am not aware of any other language mode that makes the > > usual way of installing/configuring as hard asswank-clojure. That is > > why I use a pretty ancient version of it, which in turn prevents me > > from using the latest cvs slime (I don't know ifswank-clojureworks > > with slime head atm), another PITA for people using Slime for both CL > > andClojure, but another topic. > > I don't think that's a fair comparison. Do you know of any other elisp > modes that must maintain compatibility across three wildly different > Lisp dialects while being distributed across two separate package > managers? I didn't mean to be unfair, I know you a little from IRC, you were always polite and helpful, and as I said, I really appreciate the work being done. The problems (for me) started before you were swank- clojure's maintainer. There was a time when installing swank-clojure in the "usual" emacs way was basically a no-brainer for someone accustomed to emacs. Granted, it is definitely not a trivial language-mode, but I just feel that every improvement that has been done to make swank-clojure more newbie-friendly made it more hard to use in the "traditional" way. I am not sure wether that it is distributed across two separate package managers or compatibility across Lisp dialects is the reason for the status quo. I rather have the impression that much more time and work was invested in making it easy to use in an automagical than in keeping it useable the "traditional" way. Don't get me wrong: I don't want to blame you or anyone else, and after all it's just an impression. > > Ideally, it should be made easy for both groups. > > A capital idea. Are you volunteering? =) While I am capable of keeping an old version working for me, I am not sure if I could be of much help for you. What I do is just having one clojure.jar, running it from the command line, and connecting to swank via slime-connect. No downloading of anything, no automatic configuration of anything, no automatic testing. That's pretty much all I need and want. Since the current version of swank-clojure seems to have moved on from what I use and (half-way) understand, I think I'd be of little help. Frankly, I care as much about Elpa as I care about customize ... I'm happy when I don't have to deal with it. That being said, I'll take a look at the recend codebase and see if I can wrap my head around it. If I can contribute anything of help, I'll let you know. Cheers dhl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject.