On Jun 27, 1:17 pm, Mike Meyer <mwm-keyword-googlegroups. 620...@mired.org> wrote: > Not quite - it's to keep the language *readable*. And if there's a use > case for a feature that outweighs the damage done by abusing it, > they'll add it. Witness with, list comprehensions, and those > never-to-sufficiently-cursed augmented assignment operators. This > implies simple only to the extent that it shouldn't get so large that > one person can't keep the entire language in their head.
Python passed that point for me a long time ago. I'm always referring to the docs. But that's true of most of the languages I work with now. > So how does providing a drill press and bolt set (i.e. - macros) to > the end user fit into this? Certainly macros can be dangerous if used recklessly or clumsily, but isn't trusting the programmer and giving him powerful tools what Lisp is all about? No other language provides the same power of expression. A tour through the Clojure code demonstrates just how powerful this idea is and how easy it makes it for the language implementors to implement features in a few lines of code that are major bullet-point features in other languages. > Well, there are already multiple OO implementations on top of > 1.1. Most of them are more to show that you can do that if you really > want to, and I'm not sure how much the additions to 1.2 will obsolete > them. I have to admit it's not entirely clear to me how to reconcile java objects, tagged hashes, and protocols as alternative OO models in Clojure It's probably just a lack of effort on my part in reading the source and docs but I can't say that the ADT/OO story in Clojure is as simple as the Python/Ruby approach, at least from the point of view of the beginner. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
