Thank you all guys, I'm really happy and proud to be around.

Shantanu,
Stuart, Abhishek and Brenton said every thing I was thinking about and
much more:
Lack of coherent design, sometimes it is really hard to get help,
documentation is rare.

I don't know even how to getting started with Compojure to build a web
application.

I definitely agree with Brenton, I'm thinking about a minimal
framework (first things come to mind):
1. Clean and friendly URLs (like Django and Rails).
2. Templates neutral.
3. Persistence neutral.
4. Ajax lib neutral (like Django).
5. Definitely not component-based.
6. Rest support.

(Btw Brenton, your post worth its weight in gold, thank your for
writing).
And yes Sean, this ideas looks amazing.
I really want to help and participate in one of these projects you all
mentioned but I'm pretty new to Clojure and I don't know how I can
fit.

On Sep 4, 8:26 pm, Shantanu Kumar <kumar.shant...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 4, 8:51 pm, HB <hubaghd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > My wish is vanquished :)
> > But I really wish if Relevance will work on a web framework since it
> > is in a unique position to achieve this (having the brightest Clojure
> > folks).
> > I read that Relevance embracing the "20%" principle like Google, this
> > is also will help you Relevance folks.
> > Have a nice day all.
>
> HB,
>
> I am interested to know what deficiencies do you see in present state
> of affairs in Clojure web development space. It would be something
> useful to discuss. There are libraries, such as:
> 1. Ring+Clout+Compojure, Ring+Conjure, Ring+Moustache etc as web
> controllers
> 2. Enlive, Hiccup, Gulliver, Clj-StringTemplate, Cfmljure etc for web
> template stuff
> 3. c.c.sql, clj-record, ClojureQL, SQLRat for relational databases
> 4. Sandbar, Conjure, Compojure-REST for additional web stuff
> 5. clj-http, clj-apache-http for client-side HTTP
> 6. Lein-WAR, Maven-Clojure plugin WAR artifact for production
> deployment
>
> What do you think is missing? Development-environment/IDE integration?
> REST support? Caching, security, SEO, AJAX? WebSockets? Ready-made web-
> UI components for rapid prototyping? Feel free to describe in detail.
>
> Regards,
> Shantanu

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