On Thu, 9 Sep 2010 09:41:09 -0700 (PDT)
Brenton <bashw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Mike,
> 
> Your point has been made, simple things are simple. When you need to
> print "hello world" you don't need to bring Clojure into the picture.
> You could have given a much simpler example of needing to print "hello
> world" on the command line. echo "hello world" is much simpler than
> what you would need to do in Clojure.

The thing is, I'm evaluating clojure - that's what drags clojure into
it. If I wasn't interested in using clojure, I'd never have asked the
question. Printing "hello world" is just a simple, well-understood
example application. There are *lots* of applications worth putting on
the web that aren't much more complicated than that. I chose it to
emphasis how much extra work the environment that clojure seems to be
inextricably linked with adds.

> When faced with any problem to solve, you have to look at the tools
> you have available and then determine what the simplest solution will
> be. In your case, all of the software you need is already installed,
> configured and running. So it's simple. If you gave me a system with
> Tomcat installed, configured and running then I could do the exact
> same thing. It has nothing to do with Java, it has to do with what you
> are given to work with.

I thought I *gave* you all those things to work with when I said "not
counting the web server and whatever else it needs to be ready to run
applications." Could you show me (or point me to an web page showing)
how I'd go from a simple .clj script to an application running on
Tomcat that's been installed and is ready to run applications? If
that's as simple as the apache/cgi example, I'll be very happy.

     <mike
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