This conversation began on Twitter [1] but I want to continue it on the mailing list as it may be of broader interest.
The core team is very interested in improving error messages, and relatively less interested in more code to manipulate stack traces, for the following reasons: (1) The language sits at the bottom, and must solve the problems nobody higher up can solve. Error messages are created at the point of an error, and if the language gets it wrong you may not have the information to fix it later. OTOH, any old library code can reduce a stacktrace. (2) Better error messages are easy to implement [2]. Most oddball errors are in macroexpansion, so there is no runtime cost to doing extra work to improve error messages. These can be implemented as pure functions, so even a relative beginner could contribute a patch. (3) The clojure.repl/pst macro in 1.3 already provides better control of stack trace spewage at the REPL. Please let us know when you get a misleading error message from a macroexpansion, so we can make it better. Or contribute a patch along the lines of [2]. Thanks, Stu Stuart Halloway Clojure/core http://clojure.com [1] http://twitter.com/marick/statuses/33760838540070912 [2] https://github.com/clojure/clojure/commit/d694d6d45fb46195ae4de01aab9a2b9f9c06355f -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en