2011/4/1 Chas Emerick <cemer...@snowtide.com>

> On the contrary, I've found Eclipse to be very responsive and pleasant to
> use, having now used it exclusively for the past 8 months or so and been
> particularly productive with it.
>
> I'll absolutely grant that the plugin/RCP development lifecycle is painful


But it's becoming easier and easier (not yet to the point of being fun, tho)
thanks to an embedded nrepl server and your nrepl integration into CCW.
An opportunity to publicly thank you, Chas, again, for having pushed ahead
CCW's state of the art with your contributions !


> , but if you're lucky enough to avoid being an Eclipse plugin author, you
> get to enjoy all of the benefits that go along with that ecosystem.  I
> particularly like the bleeding-edge attention Amazon gives to their AWS
> plugin[1] and the GUI builders that Google open-sourced sometime last
> year[2].
>
> - Chas
>
> [1] http://aws.amazon.com/eclipse/
> [2] http://code.google.com/javadevtools/wbpro/index.html
>
> On Apr 1, 2011, at 10:18 AM, Armando Blancas wrote:
>
> > That's how it is with these bloated IDEs. My day job is mainly Eclipse
> > plug-in/rcp dev, so I'm also guilty of putting an absurd burden on
> > others (disk footprint, startup time, memory use, unresponsiveness),
> > but that's what's passes for effective tooling these days.
> >
> > On Apr 1, 4:10 am, Chas Emerick <cemer...@snowtide.com> wrote:
> >> On Apr 1, 2011, at 5:29 AM, Meikel Brandmeyer wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>
> >>> On 1 Apr., 11:01, Laurent PETIT <laurent.pe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>> ;tldr means "too long, didn't read" (I discovered this recently) and
> it acts
> >>>> as a sort of the start of a short section at the end of a long post
> where
> >>>> people not having time to read it in its entirety can see a summary.
> >>
> >>> For this case it could look like this:
> >>
> >>> "tl;dr: I have severe responsiveness problems with Netbeans and
> >>> Enclojure. There is no obvious CPU activity, so it seems to be
> >>> something I/O related. The status message "Checking for external
> >>> changes" also points into this direction. Does someone have a similar
> >>> problem?"
> >>
> >> Yes, I encountered such behaviour on a regular basis across many
> releases in my time using NetBeans (close to 2 years, which started when
> Enclojure was the only option for those of us that are allergic to emacs).
>  In my experience, NetBeans does get gummed up on a regular basis, almost
> always while engaging in various automatic IO-intensive scanning processes:
> >>
> >>
> http://blogs.sun.com/netbeansphp/entry/enable_auto_scanning_of_sourceshttp://wiki.netbeans.org/FaqScanningAndIndexingIssues
> >>
> >> The project actually has a FAQ highlighting various ways the IDE might
> become unresponsive:
> >>
> >> http://wiki.netbeans.org/FaqSlowNetBeans
> >>
> >> - Chas
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