Thank you for your persistence on this subject : I'm sure that I'm not the only lurker on this list that you manage to get interested in LP.
I wanted to share two thought that I had when looking at your LP take on Clojure code : 1°) The infrsastructure should really lower the barrier to participation as wiki did for wikipedia. I gain some insight into the persistent data structures in Clojure implementation as I ported persistent vector to C++ : I wish I could just jump in and add that insight as a few paragraphs. Programs nowadays can be massive hence the need of collaborative developpement. A github account would be more appropriate imho that a http server. 2°) It was my understanding that Clojure implementation was both large and poised for some overhaul (Clojure in Clojure ?). On the other hand, I heard that Clojurescript implementation was damn small and maybe the experience carried from Clojure implementation means that its foundation will last : maybe it could be an opportunity for a LP project ? Best Regards, B PS: I'm seeing awsome potential in LP as a teaching tool ! I long for the day where I can direct my students to LP projects to help them understand the tought processes that went into great programs. On Oct 27, 7:58 pm, daly <d...@axiom-developer.org> wrote: > On Thu, 2011-10-27 at 00:17 -0700, Mark Engelberg wrote: > > Tim, > > > I recall that at some point you described your setup for doing Clojure > > literate programming, and if I recall correctly, you were primarily > > working in LaTeX, relying on incremental compilation to test little > > snippets of code as you wrote them. > > Yes, the idea is to write a literate version of Clojure, > seehttp://daly.literatesoftware.com/clojure.pamphlethttp://daly.literatesoftware.com/clojure.pdf > similar in style to "Lisp in Small Pieces". (The effort has been > stalled temporarily while I try to find new employment.) > > Open the source code. Stare at it. Ask yourself if you understand > exactly why it was needed, why it is structured that way, what would > happen if you changed it and what else depends on this code. Imagine > your job is to maintain and modify it but Rich is not available for > questions and answers. > > Ultimately that is what matters. In the long term the code will be > the only remaining artifact after Rich leaves the project. Look at > Sourceforge and you will see thousands of dead projects that will > never be picked up because they are just trees of code, dead code. > Et tu, Clojure? > > Literate programming is about making code live. > I like Clojure and I really want it to live. > > Think long term. Imagine a better way. > > Tim Daly Thank you for your persistence on this subject : I'm sure that I'm not the only lurker on this list that you manage to get interested in LP. I wanted to share two thought that I had when looking at your LP take on Clojure code : 1°) The infrsastructure should really lower the barrier to participation as wiki did for wikipedia. I gain some insight into the persistent data structures in Clojure implementation as I ported persistent vector to C++ : I wish I could just jump in and add that insight as a few paragraphs. Programs nowadays can be massive hence the need of collaborative developpement. A github account would be more appropriate imho that a http server. 2°) It was my understanding that Clojure implementation was both large and poised for some overhaul (Clojure in Clojure ?). On the other hand, I heard that Clojurescript implementation was damn small and maybe the experience carried from Clojure implementation means that its foundation will last : maybe it could be an opportunity for a LP project ? Best Regards, B PS: I'm seeing awsome potential in LP as a teaching tool ! I long for the day where I can direct my students to LP projects to help them understand the tought processes that went into great programs. PS2: I'd be willing to help fund LP work on Clojure[Script], now that donations to Clojure are not possible anymore . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
