Agree with Herwig 100%. This conversation has been interesting to me only
insofar as I've discovered *more* problems with the initial proposal than I
think I would have found by myself.
'(Devin Walters)
On Monday, March 26, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Herwig Hochleitner wrote:
> So to summarize:
>
> You suggest to
>
> a) Break expressions like (comp <{:k1 5 :k2 6}) or {{:foo 5} 4} which
> are legal and therefore used in production; when challenged you
> propose additional workarounds that take a whole page to even
> informally describe
> b) Introduce the completely new notational convention of requiring
> multiple closing tokens for one form; a set
>
> Without even showing a page of code using said new syntax, let alone
> make an effort to enumerate cases where it would break.
>
> Furthermore you don't seem to recognize the gravity of those issues
> and just keep focusing on hypothetical benefits, like a salesman.
> We won't buy ideas before you can make us accept them. You can only
> make us even consider accepting your ideas by demonstrating a coherent
> view of the involved issues.
> You can also do that by soliciting feedback to points you haven't
> fully thought out. Just ignoring or trying to outweigh them with
> promised benefits certainly won't help.
> </rant>
>
> Also this isn't bikeshedding, since syntax stability and orthogonality
> of the language core aren't the proverbial bike shed but the very
> power plant in lisp (and every usable language [by my definition of
> usable])
>
> So without calling any names, let me conclude with
>
> *plonk*
>
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