Sure. I probably sounded too critical of the project per se. I should not have implied that.
A general constraint solver in and of itself is a good thing, and this seems like a good summer project. But if someone has time and or funding to look at a larger effort to improve the current state of UI development... Garnet should be on the list or resources. I am unaware of any language/toolkit moving that kind of work forward, although it was practical 20 years ago. -Patrick On Saturday, April 7, 2012 9:56:19 PM UTC-7, Kevin Lynagh wrote: > > Hi Patrick, > > I'm the potential mentor for the GSoC Cassowary project. > The goal isn't to port Cassowary---it's already implemented in Java > and available in the browser via my CoffeeScript port with > ClojureScript bindings: > > https://github.com/lynaghk/cassowary-coffee > > Rather, the aim of the summer project is to put a higher-level, > idiomatic Clojure API on top of Cassowary (and possibly a DSL like > Cocoa's Autolayout: "[el]--10--[el2]") that folks can use to layout > complex visualizations and user interfaces. > > That said, I appreciate the pointer to Garnet; I've heard about it, > but not dug into it much at all. > One of my favorite things about the Clojure community is the > appreciation for history. > I have no illusions of doing anything novel. > I'd be happy if the GSoC project makes 1990s-state-of-the-art more > accessible, similar to how core.logic introduced so many folks to > logic programming even though Prolog has been around for ages. > > > > > > > On Apr 6, 7:13 pm, Patrick Logan <[email protected]> wrote: > > Cassowary seems like a good summer-sized project. My only concern is > that browsers are already gaining fairly expressive constraint-based > layout. > > > > A project that would extend beyond a summer, but move clojure to the > forefront of UI development (and by "forefront" I mean "up to early 1990s > state of the art"), would be a Garnet-like toolkit in clojurescript. Garnet > was a little sluggish in Common Lisp 20 years ago. I'd be curious to get a > sense of responsiveness in 2012 browsers. > > > > Garnet goes well beyond layout to provide declarative interactions and > editors. Which are what we all need to develop anyway. Recently "cassowary" > has become a hot topic. I'm not sure why. But I fear it's popular among > developers today who don't necessarily understand its place amid > superseding advances in UI development. > > > > Seehttp://garnetlisp.sourceforge.netfor information on Garnet. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Friday, April 6, 2012 9:48:47 AM UTC-7, SHIVAM HANDA wrote: > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > I am Shivam Handa, a sophomore at IIT (Indian Institute of > > > technology), Delhi majoring Computer Science and Engineering. I am > > > intending to work on Constraint based UI layout as a GSOC project > > > during the summer. I had a long chat with the mentor of the project > > > Kevin Lynagh and with his help I have deeper insight into the project. > > > Therefore I have applied for the same project idea at Gsoc’s website. > > > The link to proposal ishttp:// > www.google-melange.com/gsoc/proposal/review/google/gsoc2012/sh.... > > > I have a github page where I have some more info and a plan to upload > > > some sample code of test cases I have been working on there. The link > > > ishttp://www.github.com/kill-switch > > > > > The project aims at creating a high level Api for cassowary constraint > > > solver for ClojureScript. The project lets the user define layout in > > > term of a few equations (A DSL implementation for easier use of the > > > project will help in easily specifying equations) and layout will > > > follow these equations. One of the direct applications that can be > > > seen is that values need not be calculated for each and every element. > > > > > My project proposal gives the weekly schedule I will follow. It is > > > very well insured that all mentioned will be finished on time. All the > > > specification details of the project as well a good explanation of all > > > the benefits of the open source community is also given there. > > > > > I hope you will support me with my proposal. > > > > > With regards > > > Shivam Handa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
