I detail what I mean about "insanely complex" here: http://github.com/straszheimjeffrey/The-Kiln/wiki/Why
And I would reject any description of the Kiln as "imperative", as such. It does allow for side effects, but that is a matter of design and taste. You could use it without side effects. Ultimately, it is a dataflow model, albeit one where each cell is only be computed once. This makes it the opposite of a "cells-alike" library, where you want to model statefull cells changing. The Kiln is for when your cells do not change, at least over the lifetime of a particular kiln. During a webapp request, the `current-user` is a fixed value, as is `request-uri` and `response-main-body`, etc. . I find that managing the dataflow between this stuff is an endless headache. And no, it is not a FSM. FSM's model things that change. Kilns model things that do not (over the lifetime of a single kiln). On Sunday, May 6, 2012 5:52:04 PM UTC-4, Paul deGrandis wrote: > > Can you give a better example of insanely complex functions? > > I actually think that FP is ideal at modeling, representing, and > managing data-flow, stream-based, or request/response data. > Kiln seems to encourage a sort of imperative style to these > operations, where associative data (like hashmaps) would normally be > used. > What advantages and tradeoffs does Kiln offer? What problems does it > solve for you where you've deployed it? > Is Kiln's goal to create a uniform interface to a finite state machine > -esque concept? > > Thanks! > Paul > > > > On May 6, 2:08 pm, Jeffrey Straszheim <jstra...@akamai.com> wrote: > > The Kiln is an evaluation strategy for insanely complex functions. It > was > > designed based on two things: my experience with managing several large, > > complex, ever-changing web applications in Clojure, and my experience in > > dataflow approaches to modelling. > > > > I have released version 1.0.0 on Clojars. Also, there is quite a bit of > > documentation and explanation on the project Github page, including a > full > > sample application presented in a somewhat “literate” style. > > > > Please take a look. > > > > http://github.com/straszheimjeffrey/The-Kiln -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en