You guys are over-thinking it. Set up a new site, get users, tweak it, perfect it, it will become the defacto site, and you will make it really easy for Rich et al to make the switch :). It may take loads of hard and unappreciated labor though :(. That is why it has to be a labor of love.
On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 8:57 AM, aboy021 <arthur.bo...@gmail.com> wrote: > The general feeling seems to be that there is good content out there, but it > would be nice if it were on Clojure.org, especially from the perspective of > new users and promoting the language. > > The copyright on the site is to Rich Hickey, and the logo and site design > are credited to Tom Hickey. Normally I'd try and contact them directly but > it seems like Rich has got a lot of other (rather wonderful) things to keep > himself busy, and I'm not sure how to contact Tom. > > A contribution process would be nice. I've heard it mooted that markdown > files in a git repo might be a nice way of handling it. > > > > On Tuesday, 2 October 2012 14:07:56 UTC-5, nchurch wrote: >> >> Clojuredocs is already out there and quite good (though not modified >> much as of late). However, it doesn't show up very high on Google >> (not even on the first page for "Clojure"). There's also Learn >> Clojure, which has a clean design but hasn't been updated in a while >> (and also doesn't seem to have a Github link, so unsure how to >> contribute). >> >> It would be nice to see Clojure.org itself have a contribution >> process, not unlike Clojure itself. >> >> On Oct 2, 3:46 am, Yakovlev Roman <felix...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > You can make your site with many examples and good documentation and >> > maybe >> > it will be at first place at google if it will have great value. >> > >> > A lot of people here will agree with that. Site could be better place to >> > get started ! but old site still there. >> > >> > As far as i know there is a company behind Scala called "TypeSafe" and >> > they >> > got tons of money recently to make the lanugage more popular and >> > attractive >> > to newbie users. So maybe we see good main site and good web frameworks >> > around Scala ( lift and play). >> > So maybe Clojure also need something like this. Though "Relevance" >> > company >> > supports clojure somehow but i guess not enough for now. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Tuesday, October 2, 2012 1:13:49 AM UTC+4, aboy021 wrote: >> > >> > > I decided to quickly compare the website experience of starting >> > > Clojure >> > > and starting Scala. >> > >> > > I do a Google search for Clojure >> > > I decide to try the first link, Clojure.org >> > > There's some basic information. I follow the somewhat obscure link >> > > halfway >> > > down the side, "Getting Started" >> > > Ok, that looks promising, now I can get a REPL to interact with. >> > > I follow the link to the Getting Started Documentation ( >> > >http://dev.clojure.org/display/doc/Getting+Started) (isn't that where I >> > > already was?) >> > > Still flailing a bit, I follow the link to Mark Volkmann's Tutorial. >> > > This is the first chance I've had to see what Clojure actually looks >> > > like >> > > and how to program in it. >> > >> > > In stark contrast, I try searching for Scala. >> > > I get presented with an appealing, nicely laid out page with large >> > > links >> > > to an introduction to the language and a page on getting started. >> > > There are links in an easy to navigate menu with Information about the >> > > language, documentation, code examples, Software, and Developer >> > > information. >> > >> > > Now, I'm no Scala developer, but at first glance it seems like I've >> > > found >> > > a great touch stone that I can use to find out what's happening in the >> > > language, how it looks, what it can do for me, and I can learn how to >> > > write >> > > it. >> > >> > > Another thing that the scala-lang site has is Code Examples. Code >> > > examples >> > > are a really nice way for you to get a taste of how a language can >> > > solve >> > > common problems, and they can give you a real sense of the flavour of >> > > the >> > > language. >> > >> > > A lot of the information for Clojure seems to be there, it's just not >> > > laid >> > > out in an attractive easy to use format. Perhaps we could have a >> > > fundraiser >> > > to pay for a web designer to make a nice modern website that contains >> > > the >> > > information in an easier to digest and more centralised way >> > >> > > The getting started issue is an ongoing problem for Clojure. It's an >> > > issue >> > > that keeps coming up in the surveys and on the mailing list. Other >> > > languages are doing it really well, Scala is just a convenient >> > > example. >> > > What does the Clojure community need to do to help support the >> > > creation of >> > > something that is on par? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Clojure" group. > To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your > first post. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -- ((λ (x) (x x)) (λ (x) (x x))) http://www.wisdomandwonder.com/ ACM, AMA, COG, IEEE -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. 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