That is very true.

is here the right place? is there a a different group/forum for the 
language developers? should i file a bug on github?

On Wednesday, March 13, 2013 12:17:45 PM UTC+2, Marko Topolnik wrote:
>
> The netty people are not to blame; harass Rich instead :)
>
> On Wednesday, March 13, 2013 11:11:46 AM UTC+1, shlomi...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> hmmm, that what i was afraid of :)
>> ill take my chances harassing the netty people now before i go down that 
>> path..
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 13, 2013 12:09:44 PM UTC+2, Marko Topolnik wrote:
>>>
>>> I see, that's very unfortunate then. It fails even when it is not 
>>> actually making the reflective call. Your last recourse is writing your own 
>>> code against the Java Reflection API, using *setAccesible(true)* if 
>>> necessary.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 13, 2013 11:03:50 AM UTC+1, shlomi...@gmail.comwrote:
>>>>
>>>> I fully agree with you, only it doesnt work.. ServerBootstrap does not 
>>>> override that specific method, which is what causing this pain, so i dont 
>>>> know what other options i have.
>>>>
>>>> here is my attempt:
>>>>
>>>> user> (.channel ^ServerBootstrap b ^Class 
>>>> io.netty.channel.socket.nio.NioServerSocketChannel)
>>>> Reflection warning, NO_SOURCE_PATH:1:1 - call to channel can't be 
>>>> resolved.
>>>> IllegalArgumentException Can't call public method of non-public class: 
>>>> public io.netty.bootstrap.AbstractBootstrap 
>>>> io.netty.bootstrap.AbstractBootstrap.channel(java.lang.Class) 
>>>>  clojure.lang.Reflector.invokeMatchingMethod (Reflector.java:88)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, March 13, 2013 11:58:06 AM UTC+2, Marko Topolnik wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> It does have a public descendant, though. It is not acceptable for you 
>>>>> to annotate with ServerBootstrap? It really is bad practice to annotate 
>>>>> with non-public classes.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, March 13, 2013 10:43:35 AM UTC+1, shlomi...@gmail.comwrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> hey
>>>>>> we dont need to be almost certain, we can just look at the code : 
>>>>>> https://github.com/netty/netty/blob/master/transport/src/main/java/io/netty/bootstrap/AbstractBootstrap.java
>>>>>>  and 
>>>>>> see that it is not a public ancestor. more then that, i annotated the 
>>>>>> code 
>>>>>> and it didnt work. here is a repl dump, same as Sean did:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ; nREPL 0.1.6-preview
>>>>>> user> (set! *warn-on-reflection* true) 
>>>>>> true
>>>>>> user> (import '(io.netty.bootstrap AbstractBootstrap 
>>>>>> ServerBootstrap)) 
>>>>>> io.netty.bootstrap.ServerBootstrap
>>>>>> user> (def b (ServerBootstrap.)) 
>>>>>> #'user/b
>>>>>> user> (.channel ^AbstractBootstrap b ^Class 
>>>>>> io.netty.channel.socket.nio.NioServerSocketChannel) 
>>>>>> Reflection warning, NO_SOURCE_PATH:1:1 - call to channel can't be 
>>>>>> resolved.
>>>>>> IllegalArgumentException Can't call public method of non-public 
>>>>>> class: public io.netty.bootstrap.AbstractBootstrap 
>>>>>> io.netty.bootstrap.AbstractBootstrap.channel(java.lang.Class) 
>>>>>>  clojure.lang.Reflector.invokeMatchingMethod (Reflector.java:88)
>>>>>> user>  *clojure-version* 
>>>>>> {:major 1, :minor 5, :incremental 1, :qualifier nil}
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 13, 2013 11:34:33 AM UTC+2, Marko Topolnik wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is almost certain that the method you want to call is inherited 
>>>>>>> from a public ancestor. Annotate the call with that ancestor and it 
>>>>>>> will 
>>>>>>> work.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 13, 2013 10:23:31 AM UTC+1, 
>>>>>>> shlomi...@gmail.comwrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> here is the full exception when compiling:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: 
>>>>>>>> Can't call public method of non-public class: public 
>>>>>>>> io.netty.bootstrap.AbstractBootstrap 
>>>>>>>> io.netty.bootstrap.AbstractBootstrap.channel(java.lang.Class), 
>>>>>>>> compiling:(netty.clj:31:1)
>>>>>>>> at clojure.lang.Compiler$InstanceMethodExpr.eval(Compiler.java:1453)
>>>>>>>> at clojure.lang.Compiler.compile1(Compiler.java:7153)
>>>>>>>> at clojure.lang.Compiler.compile(Compiler.java:7219)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Caused by: java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Can't call public 
>>>>>>>> method of non-public class: public 
>>>>>>>> io.netty.bootstrap.AbstractBootstrap 
>>>>>>>> io.netty.bootstrap.AbstractBootstrap.channel(java.lang.Class)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 13, 2013 11:21:40 AM UTC+2, 
>>>>>>>> shlomi...@gmail.comwrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> yes you are right, it is a compile-time error.. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 13, 2013 11:19:25 AM UTC+2, Marko Topolnik 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> When you annotate, is it a runtime or a compile-time error? I 
>>>>>>>>>> would be very surprised if it happened at runtime (when the function 
>>>>>>>>>> is 
>>>>>>>>>> actuall called).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 13, 2013 1:26:00 AM UTC+1, Shlomi Vaknin 
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> hey, I have a similar problem, even when i type annotate with 
>>>>>>>>>>> clojure 1.5 i still get that error.. any suggestions?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>

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