this doesn't quite make sense: "Since Clojure is well-known for its
concurrency feature, running in the same JVM should be out of question."

All the concurrency features built in to clojure are concerned with things
that happen in the same process, unless you consider things like 'making it
easier to use queues' to be those kinds of features that affect
multi-process stuff.

A concurrency focus doesn't say anything about philosophy of
processes/threads or anything like that.  MapReduce is dictating the
process model here which goes against the grain of what java's good at
doing, with the assumption that you'll be working with a *lot* of data and
won't care.  Something that takes 21 seconds isn't optimal use of
mapreduce.  Try it with something that takes a few minutes at least.

However, you can help startup time in a number of ways, AOT compilation can
help a bit, as well as judicious use of third-party code and keeping class
dependencies low.


On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Ji Zhang <zhangj...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I believe I can confirm that it's the startup time issue.
>
> I set mapred.job.reuse.jvm.num.tasks=-1 and the overall time is
> approximate to the pure java one. The best mapper task is the same time,
> 3sec. Before it is 10sec. The lowest task's difference is still 12sec
> (21sec - 9 sec).
>
> Since Clojure is well-known for its concurrency feature, running in the
> same JVM should be out of question.
>
> Besides, my company's hadoop team seems to cut the files into too small
> pieces, which result in too many mapper tasks. So the reuse is crucial for
> clojure.
>
>
> On Friday, April 26, 2013 6:05:33 PM UTC+8, Ji Zhang wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm writing map-reduce job with Clojure, yet to find that it seems to be
>> much slower than a Jave job.
>>
>> So I write a simple test case, and upload to gist:
>> https://gist.github.com/**jizhang/5466149<https://gist.github.com/jizhang/5466149>
>>
>> At the end of code, there is execution outputs, here are some significant
>> stats:
>>
>> Average time taken by Map tasks: Java 7sec, Clojure 19sec
>> CPU time spent (ms): Java 244,000, Clojure 1,145,440
>>
>> I'm wondering what slows down the Clojure written map-reduce job. Am I
>> using it wrong, or it's just an inappropriate senario.
>>
>> Any thoughts will be great. Thanks!
>>
>> Jerry
>>
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