Andy,

I do think that if a debugging feature has to be limited to a particular 
environment then Leiningen would be preferable to any other, since it's so 
simple to install and use (and maybe most people have it anyway?) that people 
who use other environments could, without too much trouble, do a new run from 
Leiningen when they know they need to do some debugging. Not as good as having 
it work everywhere with whatever you're already using, of course, but certainly 
better than (for example) requiring that you figure out how to install and use 
an Emacs-based environment just to figure out what values your locals have when 
you crash.

Would what you have in mind work from "lein run" as well as "lein repl"? FWIW I 
(and my students) do a lot via "lein run".

 -Lee

On Nov 7, 2013, at 2:47 PM, Andy Fingerhut wrote:

> Lee, I am curious whether you would consider it "too tied to a particular dev 
> environment" if the kind of minimal debugging features you wish for worked 
> from Leiningen's REPL?  i.e. 'lein repl'
> 
> I do not know if Ritz can work in such an environment or not, but I am 
> guessing it might be easier to get a subset of it working there than from a 
> REPL started via 'java -cp clojure.jar clojure.main'
> 
> Andy

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