Thanks! On Nov 18, 2013, at 6:03 PM, Jarrod Swart <jcsw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The talk is linked in my initial post, and again here: > http://skillsmatter.com/podcast/agile-testing/bobs-last-language its very > interesting! > > On Monday, November 18, 2013 2:00:06 PM UTC-5, Marcus Blankenship wrote: > Do you have a link to the UncleBob talk, Jarrod? > > > On Nov 16, 2013, at 4:34 PM, Jarrod Swart <jcs...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I think the more interesting question is: do web developers need Clojure? >> If performance were the sole concern then everyone would still code web apps >> in C or assembler. There is great power in abstraction. I like this talk >> by Uncle Bob: >> http://skillsmatter.com/podcast/agile-testing/bobs-last-language If you >> don't have time to watch it I will summarize: every time we get a more >> powerful programming environment (for developers) we reduce our programming >> options (in the language). >> C --> Java == no pointers >> Java --> Clojure == no immutability, etc. >> Every major advancement for developers has largely involved reducing our >> options and choices. Take away register manipulation, take away pointers, >> take away variables, and so on. I highly recommend the talk by Uncle Bob. >> >> So I highly encourage you to investigate the benefits that Clojure provide >> to the developer, over the benefits provided to the machine. >> >> Good luck in your search! >> >> Jarrod >> >> On Wednesday, November 13, 2013 5:38:49 PM UTC-5, Marcus Blankenship wrote: >> Hi Folks, >> >> We’re a Python / Django shop, and some folks are getting excited about using >> Clojure for building web apps. Certainly there are numerous open-source >> options to assist us (Pedastal, Ring, Compojure, Caribou, etc), but I think >> it begs a larger question: as a rule, do web applications need the power >> that Clojure brings to the table? >> >> Other folks on my team are telling me that solutions built with Python / >> Django (or even RubyOnRails) fully satisfy the needs of 99% of the web apps >> we have built, and that Clojure offers nothing new to this problem space. >> >> So, here’s the question: How are you are actually using Clojure, and why did >> you choose to use it, particularly in the “web application” space? >> >> Thanks, >> Marcus >> >> >> >> marcus blankenship >> \\\ Partner, Problem Solver, Linear Thinker >> \\\ 541.805.2736 \ @justzeros \ skype:marcuscreo >> >> >> -- >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Clojure" group. >> To post to this group, send email to clo...@googlegroups.com >> Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your >> first post. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> clojure+u...@googlegroups.com >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Clojure" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to clojure+u...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > marcus blankenship > \\\ Partner, Problem Solver, Linear Thinker > \\\ 541.805.2736 \ @justzeros \ skype:marcuscreo > > > -- > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Clojure" group. > To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your > first post. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Clojure" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. marcus blankenship \\\ Partner, Problem Solver, Linear Thinker \\\ 541.805.2736 \ @justzeros \ skype:marcuscreo -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
