Granted, but the word "bad" seems harsh without any explanation, especially if the common usage is to pass an empty map.
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Alex Robbins < alexander.j.robb...@gmail.com> wrote: > Maybe they want config in the least variance argument so it can be > partial'ed? > > > On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Jim Crossley <j...@crossleys.org> wrote: > >> We used kwargs for options extensively in Immutant 1.x, and we're moving >> to explicit maps for Immutant 2.x, for the reasons cited above. >> >> It's not obvious to me why the "bad" release-sharks example on the coding >> standards page [1] is bad. Why should the optional config be the "least >> variance argument"? >> >> I had to look up "laudable", btw. It's one of those good words that >> sounds bad. :) >> >> [1] http://dev.clojure.org/display/community/Library+Coding+Standards >> >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 6:14 AM, Colin Fleming < >> colin.mailingl...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> And thinking about it (after pressing "send", of course), you'd get the >>> same benefit from destructuring an explicit map in the function parameter >>> anyway, wouldn't you? >>> >>> >>> On 30 April 2014 22:11, Colin Fleming <colin.mailingl...@gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> But that's only true for the variables which are explicitly >>>> destructured in the function definition, which in my experience many are >>>> not - they're often later picked out of an ":as args" argument, perhaps >>>> dependent on a combination of the parameters which are explicitly >>>> destructured. Seesaw never does this, for example. I think it's dangerous >>>> to rely on this rather than the documentation since it's often an >>>> incomplete view of what the function requires. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Colin >>>> >>>> >>>> On 30 April 2014 21:03, Joachim De Beule <joachim.de.be...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> my two cents: >>>>> >>>>> The extra readability to users when using keyword args also comes from >>>>> the fact that a function's options are explicit in its signature. So >>>>> during >>>>> development, instead of having to look them up in the docs or in the code, >>>>> my emacs mini-buffer simply shows them to me. Although I do agree with all >>>>> the good reasons against keywords arguments, to me this is still the >>>>> decisive reason to prefer them... >>>>> >>>>> Joachim >>>>> >>>>> Op woensdag 30 april 2014 05:41:29 UTC+2 schreef James Reeves: >>>>> >>>>>> On 30 April 2014 03:54, Sean Corfield <se...@corfield.org> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I still think the keyword argument approach is far more readable to >>>>>>> _users_ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "Clojure" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com >>>>> Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient >>>>> with your first post. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en >>>>> --- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "Clojure" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Clojure" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com >>> Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with >>> your first post. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Clojure" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Clojure" group. >> To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com >> Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with >> your first post. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Clojure" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Clojure" group. > To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with > your first post. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Clojure" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. 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