Thanks Tassilo for the explanation - much appreciated!

I have been searching the web and searching clojure text books for the last 
two hours trying to find the answer to this same question.  Finally I 
stumbled onto this thread!

I realize that hiding the complexity of distinctions between fn / fn* and 
let / let* etc might make the documentation more accessible for some users, 
but for others (like me and presumably also Plínio) it makes it really hard 
to track down what is *really* going on.  I wish this distinction was part 
of the formal documentation.

Does anyone know of documentation anywhere that does include these kinds of 
distinction?

Thanks,

Mark.

On Thursday, 6 March 2014 02:27:26 UTC+10:30, Tassilo Horn wrote:
>
> Plínio Balduino <pbal...@gmail.com <javascript:>> writes: 
>
> Hi Plínio, 
>
> > Clojure.org says fn and let are special forms, but using the macro 
> > sourceshows that both are macros calling fn* and let* respectivelly. 
> > 
> > So fn and let are "special special forms", or clojure.org is 
> > incorrect/outdated? 
>
> Well, they are correct from a user's point of view.  One never uses the 
> real special forms fn* and let*. 
>
> > If fn and let are really special forms and not macros, could you 
> > explain why? 
>
> fn and let (and also loop) are macros around the real special forms fn* 
> and let* (and loop*) that add support for destructuring.  For example, 
>
> (let [[a b] [1 2]] 
>   (+ a b)) 
>
> expands to 
>
> (let* 
>   [vec__8592 [1 2] 
>    a (clojure.core/nth vec__8592 0 nil) 
>    b (clojure.core/nth vec__8592 1 nil)] 
>   (+ a b)) 
>
> where the destructuring has been transformed to "normal" code already. 
>
> Bye, 
> Tassilo 
>

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