Adrian, thanks for your input on whether this is a bug or not. Your 
viewpoint may yet prove to be the "accepted" one but I still felt like the 
original way I wrote the function should have meant: <check pre-conditions> 
<function runs> <check final return to caller>. In that sense, it feels 
like my original function g should have been semantically equivalent to 
g2... but we'll see.

Thanks for the ticket and patch, Steve! Also, I seem to now be able to 
finally log into JIRA -- I'll sign up to watch the ticket.

Anyhow, thanks everyone! We'll see what happens.

Michael

On Friday, July 25, 2014 8:41:47 AM UTC-6, Ambrose Bonnaire-Sergeant wrote:
>
> Now that Steve mentions it, I have fixed this kind of issue in my own defn 
> macros. IIRC adding an inner loop form did the trick.
>
> Thanks,
> Ambrose
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 10:35 PM, <adrian...@mail.yu.edu <javascript:>> 
> wrote:
>
>> I do not believe this should be considered a bug. Recur is a special form 
>> that rebinds the bindings at the point of recursion with new values. It 
>> does not return a value. It does not get evaluated in the normal sense of 
>> the word. You cannot type check a value on a valueless expression. Just 
>> think about the implications of what a post condition on a recur form 
>> means. Even if you wanted to give value semantics to the evaluation of a 
>> recur form, there would be no single value it could check against. If you 
>> wanted the post condition to only be evaluated on the termination of the 
>> loop, or when the recur form is not conditionally present in the 
>> expression, then you are essentially asking the impossible for the 
>> compiler: it cannot know your intentions better than you do. 
>>
>>
>> On Friday, July 25, 2014 10:12:14 AM UTC-4, Michael O'Keefe wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks Bob, Steve, and Andy. I was trying to get logged into JIRA to 
>>> file the bug report but I seem to be having a heck of a time -- I have a CA 
>>> and am signed up at dev.clojure.org but when I try to log into JIRA, it 
>>> gives me a nice "System Error" saying " user should not be null!". I've run 
>>> out of time to deal with this right now but, Steve, if you get to it before 
>>> me, feel free to submit the bug report.
>>>
>>> Thanks all for the helpful discussions!
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>> On Friday, July 25, 2014 7:58:51 AM UTC-6, miner wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I will call it a bug.  It's definitely surprising to the user, and 
>>>> therefore worthy of a ticket.  On first glance, it seems that the fix 
>>>> isn't 
>>>> too hard. In core.clj where the macro fn is redefined, we just need to 
>>>> wrap 
>>>> the section that handles the post condition either with a loop* or a fn* 
>>>> so 
>>>> that the body has the proper recur target.  I'll try to make a patch and a 
>>>> test.  If it works, I'll file a bug with the patch.
>>>
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