Good catch; Thanks for correcting me. On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 11:57 PM, Lucas Bradstreet < [email protected]> wrote:
> Just a small clarification: both Storm and Onyx both depend on Zookeeper. Onyx > is masterless as of 0.5.0, however it still requires Zookeeper IN order to > write an append only log used by the peers in order to coordinate. In > contrast to Storm, Onyx does not have dedicated coordinator nodes (in > Storm these are Nimbus nodes). The masterless design is described at > http://michaeldrogalis.github.io/jekyll/update/2015/01/20/Onyx-0.5.0:-The-Cluster-as-a-Value.html > . > > Lucas > > On 14 Feb 2015, at 07:57, Christopher Small <[email protected]> wrote: > > I'll chime in with a couple of comments about Storm vs Onyx. > > I've used Storm in a production application, so I'm fairly familiar with > it. I haven't spent too much time playing with Onyx yet, but will be soon. > From what I do know about it and Storm though, I can say the following: > > Both Storm and Onyx are similar in that you specify distributed > computations via computational topologies. So in general, you can do > similar pretty things with them. So for the differences: > > - Storm is certainly much more mature at this point. > - At the moment, Storm is much faster, though Michael D. has some > plans for stealing some of the performance tricks and intergrating them > into Onyx. > - The *main *difference: As Deon points out, Storm's functionality is > heavily built on macros, and rather opaque. In contrast, Onyx embraces > using simple data structures to describe the flow of a computation. This > makes the specification of computational flow much more modular and > composable, to the extant that it's even possible to modify the > computational flow at runtime. > - Onyx is built from the ground up in Clojure, for Clojure, whereas > Storm has a lot of Java under the hood, and places stronger emphasis on > it's Java API than it's Clojure API > - Onyx is moving (has moved? forget now...) to a very clever > masterless architecture, while Storm depends on Zookeper, which is a pretty > massive piece of software. > > If you need something that's battled tested right away, Storm may be your > best bet. But I think as it matures (and it's developing quickly and > beginning to get production adoption), it's going to win out over Storm, at > least within the Clojure community, for the strengths mentioned above. The > value of embracing data structures for the sake of composability is well > argued and described in Zach Tellman's Always Be Composing > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oQTSP4FngY> talk; this is something > that seems to be catching on among Clojurists, and will likely see Onyx > gain significant traction. > > My two cents... > > Chris Small > > > On Friday, February 13, 2015 at 11:34:36 AM UTC-8, Deon Moolman wrote: >> >> Hi Aaron, >> >> Onyx is still quite young, but incredibly promising. I absolutely enjoy >> the way that they have teased apart the different bits of distributed >> systems. I highly recommend getting involved in the project, they're going >> to do great things. >> >> As for Storm, I haven't really used it so I'm not really qualified to >> comment. I've stayed away from it mostly because the defspout and defbolt >> macros made a deep part inside me cringe. Other than that, I'm sure it's a >> perfectly capable platform and I've heard people doing a lot of great >> things with it. >> >> Onyx really just translates to a library, at the end of the day. You >> build your application on top of it and manage firing up your peers inside >> each process yourself. This gives you as an application developer immense >> flexibilty. Deployment is outside the scope of Onyx - it assumes you've got >> that covered. I think that's a very wise assumption, given that the ways to >> deploy jars are diverse. >> >> Cheers, >> - Deon >> >> On Friday, 13 February 2015 02:04:26 UTC+2, Aaron France wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> What are your opinions on Onyx? >>> >>> What are your opinions on Onyx compared to Storm? >>> >>> What are your opinions on Onyx deployment? >>> >>> Aaron >>> >>> >>> On Thursday, 12 February 2015 10:15:44 UTC+1, Deon Moolman wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi everyone, >>>> >>>> I spent some time putting together an implementation of the CQRS >>>> pattern in Clojure and wrote an article on it: >>>> >>>> http://yuppiechef.github.io/cqrs-server/ >>>> >>>> >>>> It mostly boils down to an Onyx (http://www.github.com/ >>>> MichaelDrogalis/onyx) configuration, but it's been an interesting >>>> journey that I felt is worthwhile sharing. >>>> >>>> Feedback really appreciated! >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> - Deon >>>> >>> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Clojure" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with > your first post. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Clojure" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Clojure" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with > your first post. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "Clojure" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/clojure/hLmaN3sB-Q4/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. 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