On 03/05/2015 00:53, Christopher Small wrote:
I disagree with the premise entirely. I think that the Clojure community
has just done a better job of building smaller, more modular tooling.
And this is frankly something I prefer, and find refreshing in the
Clojure sphere (as compared with my previous Rails webdev experience).

Note that to put things on the same footing, you'd want to be noting
that Luminus depend on Ring and Compojure, with commit counts 761 and
865 resp, and contributor counts 73 and 29 resp.

I'm not saying that Clojure can't improve it's offering in web dev with
added libraries etc, but I wouldn't want to see us move away from the
modularity with which we've built things, because I think it's a win.

Just my 2 c

Chris Small

Most decent web frameworks these days are built from modular components so this distinction is a bit laboured. Rails is built on top of Active* and Rack so the Ring/Compojure distinction is illusory. Laravel is built on top of Symfony components it could be argued that Symfony has played a similar role to Ring/Compojure in the PHP community.

Clojure's modular approach is great but I just don't see the need to polarise when there's such a strong business case for structured frameworks. If you look at most of the jobs in web development at Indeed.com they're almost exclusively framework-based. Modular is great but it would also be nice to see a few more Clojure jobs advertised.

gvim

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