Thanks Rich, for this and your work in general. After 15 years of working 
with Java, it has been a real joy to find clojure (let's face it, that pun 
alone is pure gold!). 

I might try my hand at the macrology you describe as an exercise... 
everybody stand well back....

On Thursday, 26 May 2016 14:43:04 UTC+1, Rich Hickey wrote:
>
> If you name (register) your (sub)specs with s/def and you can reuse them 
> as much as you like. 
>
> (s/def ::argi (s/cat :i integer?)) 
> (s/def ::fnii (s/fspec :args ::argi :ret integer?)) 
> (s/conform ::fnii +) 
> (s/valid? ::argi '(42)) 
>
> However you are talking about calling ‘instrument’ so I don’t think you 
> are in the HOF case. So you shouldn’t be using fspec but fdef: 
>
> (s/fdef fooi :args (s/cat :i integer?) :ret integer?) 
>
> (defn fooi [i] 
>   (let [spec (-> `fooi s/fn-specs :args)] 
>     (assert (s/valid? spec (list i)) (s/explain-str spec (list i)))) 
>   42) 
>
> (fooi "42") 
> user=> AssertionError Assert failed: In: [0] val: "42" fails at: [:i] 
> predicate: integer? 
>
> Obviously some macrology could make this more succinct, as is being 
> discussed elsewhere. 
>
> > On May 26, 2016, at 9:17 AM, Wesley Hall <wesle...@gmail.com 
> <javascript:>> wrote: 
> > 
> > spec is not a contract system. 
> > 
> > Forgive me for I am about to sin :). 
> > 
> > I have a little RPC framework that I use to do simple remoting between 
> clojurescript in the browser and ring based web services. I'm currently 
> using schema to validate arguments received from clients and return 
> appropriate exceptions upon non-conforming invocations. 
> > 
> > The idea of being able to perform generative testing against a 
> specification for these functions is really appealing but if I am using 
> generative testing to verify that my functions behave properly if invoked 
> as intended it does feel like there would be some benefit to ensuring that 
> the conditions under which the function has been tested are enforced at 
> runtime for those functions on the edges of my API. 
> > 
> > I'd definitely prefer a manual conformity check over instrumentation in 
> these cases, but it seems like an fspec cannot be used for this purpose 
> (from within the function itself). I'd rather not define my specs twice. 
> > 
> > Seems like I might be destined to make cheeky instrument calls after 
> each of these edge functions, in the same was the always-validate metadata 
> is used in schema. 
> > 
> > Do I have a desperate need to be convinced otherwise? :) 
> > 
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