Hi Seyram, Wow, I really appreciate the gracious offer of support! I'll definitely make sure to include lead time for getting toolforge approvals in our schedule.
I was thinking it would be easier for all participants to share a tool, that way we can all "become" the tool and see what the others are doing and provide help and advice. Or at the very least, taking turns syncing/buiding/deploying. This also fits the general idea of us all working together on a shared goal/tool. One thing I'm not sure I understand, is it possible to run multiple buildpacks/services from a single tool account? Or is tool/service a one to one mapping? Otherwise, I will definitely be sure to decommission any sandbox tools we are using after the event, if they are incomplete or if there are no plans to "graduate" them. Thanks so much! -Travis On Thu, Mar 26, 2026 at 1:42 PM Seyram Komla Sapaty <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello Travis, > > We will be happy to help you setup this workshop, just a few notes: > > As you mention, the participants will have to create a wikimedia developer > account, and request the toolforge membership before the session > (essentially follow the quickstart you mentioned [1]). We can also try to > speed up the process, so if you notify us when the users create the > accounts (ex. on irc #wikimedia-cloud channel), we can get them approved as > soon as one of us starts working that day. > > You can create a specific tool for all the participants (create a new > tool, then add members), or each participant can create their own tool. > > The only thing we ask from you is to disable the tools that you created > during the workshop if they are not needed anymore to free up resources. > All this can be done in a self-service manner though the UI (see [2] and > [3]). > > Feel free also to request assistance on the irc channel the day of the > event, if any of us is around (usually around UTC 09:00 - UTC 23:00, other > community members might be able to help too out of those hours) or other > channels if too for more asynchronous help (see [4]). > > [1] https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Toolforge/Quickstart > > [2] > https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Toolforge/Tool_accounts#Add_or_remove_maintainers > > > [3] > https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Toolforge/Tool_accounts#Delete_a_tool_account > > [4] > https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Toolforge#Communication_and_support > > Thanks > > > On Wed, Mar 25, 2026 at 11:20 AM Travis Briggs via Cloud < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Hello all, >> >> The Bay Area Wikipedians User Group organizers (BAWUG: >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bay_Area_Wikipedians_User_Group), is in >> the early stages of planning a satellite "hackathon" to coincide with the >> main one in Milan in May. >> >> As part of the planning, I'm thinking about doing more of a "beginner's >> workshop" type format, where there is a lot of hands on training and we >> work as a group on one or two projects. This is in contrast to the normal >> hackathon format where you give suggestions then set a bunch of people >> loose to work individually and in teams on a variety of projects. >> >> To be clear, we're anticipating 10 or less attendees, with almost no >> experience in Wikimedia development (but still developers of at least >> moderate other experience) >> >> Anyways, I was wondering if there's any capacity for us to have a >> "sandbox" type toolforge project, where we can get our >> participants onboarded with developer accounts, and they can experiment >> with developing and launching some kind of "hello world" tool. I think it >> would be a great experience to set up the accounts, the keys, the SSH >> tunnels, etc, as well as learning how to query enwiki_p and access other >> resources. >> >> Though looking through the onboarding docs just now (it's been ages since >> I've done this process myself and it clearly has changed), it says >> "Toolforge membership" can take up to a week for approval? This might not >> be an issue because I was already planning to have a "pre-session" for our >> workshop a week before the in person event. >> >> Basically my request comes down to: Can I just go ahead and use the self >> service tool account creation workflow ( >> https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Toolforge/Tool_accounts#Creating) >> with the knowledge that I'm not developing a "real" tool, it's for >> educational purposes? >> >> Thanks, >> -Travis >> BAWUG Co-organizer >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Cloud mailing list -- [email protected] >> List information: >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/cloud.lists.wikimedia.org/ >> >
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