On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 5:54 PM, Ewan Mellor <ewan.mel...@eu.citrix.com> wrote: >> -----Original Message----- >> From: David Nalley [mailto:da...@gnsa.us] >> Sent: 15 August 2012 14:49 >> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Binaries (jars) in our source tree/source releases. >> >> > We need to make a decision soon though. Is it OK if I set a deadline of >> > EOD >> tomorrow for your branches to be ready, and then we can have a vote in the >> IRC meeting on Friday, 17:00 UTC? >> >> >> We can not make decisions in IRC. >> >> If it's something we can't get consensus on we should vote on the mailing >> list, >> but lets try and avoid voting unless absolutely necessary - votes have to >> stay >> open for 72 hours. Consensus is much easier. > > *sigh* > > The Cloud Project That Cannot Be Named gets everything done in IRC. It's > very efficient. > > Ewan. > >
IRC decision making is incredibly efficient. It is also very exclusive, meaning you have to show up at a given place and time that is certain to be inconvenient or impossible for some/many to have your voice/vote heard. The ASF didn't make this a secret - it's been a long standing policy and was well known before we ever asked to be included as an incubator project. ASF even has a motto of 'community over code' which in this case might be better translated, 'community inclusion over process efficiency'. --David
