Does it make sense to introduce the flag(persistent) as part of NetworkOffering?

Thanks,
RamG

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Likitha Shetty [mailto:likitha.she...@citrix.com]
> Sent: 03 January 2013 18:05
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] Persistent Networks without a running VM
> 
> Please find my answers and queries inline.
> 
> Thank you,
> Likitha
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chiradeep Vittal [mailto:chiradeep.vit...@citrix.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 1:03 PM
> > To: CloudStack DeveloperList
> > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Persistent Networks without a running VM
> >
> > So:
> > 1. There needs to be both kinds of networks available (persistent as
> well as non-
> > persistent) in the same zone?
> Yes
> 
> > From an end-user perspective this is going to be confusing since she
> has not
> > been exposed to this internal state before (and generally the end-
> user is not
> > aware of the internal state of the infrastructure).
> +1. Say we have a new API 'ProvisionNetwork' to provision a network
> that has been created by the user. Since the user is not aware of the
> internal state of a network it would be confusing for the user to
> understand the difference b/w the 2 API's, CreateNetwork and
> ProvisionNetwork.
> 
> > Is it OK to make this behavior
> > zone-wide, I.e., on every guest network?
> But this would mean having all networks (in the zone which has this
> behavior enabled) in an implemented state, even if a network has no
> physical device or VM deployed in it. This is changing the default CS
> behavior of not having resources allocated to a network if the network
> doesn't require it. Is that acceptable ?
> 
> >
> >
> > On 12/31/12 10:19 AM, "Manan Shah" <manan.s...@citrix.com> wrote:
> >
> > >Thanks Likitha for picking up this requirement. You have correctly
> > >interpreted the requirements.
> > >
> > >Regards,
> > >Manan Shah
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >On 12/31/12 2:52 AM, "Likitha Shetty" <likitha.she...@citrix.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >>Hi,
> > >>
> > >>I would like to work on the proposed feature.
> > >>Restating the requirement. Currently in CloudStack when a user
> creates
> > >>a network, a db entry for that network is made, a VLAN ID is
> assigned
> > >>and the network is created only when the first VM on that network
> is
> > created.
> > >>With this feature CloudStack should allow users to provision the
> > >>created network i.e. assign a VLAN ID and implement the network
> > >>without having to deploy VM's on that network.
> > >>
> > >>Comments/Suggestions on the requirement ?
> > >>
> > >>Thank you,
> > >>Likitha
> > >>
> > >>-----Original Message-----
> > >>From: Manan Shah [mailto:manan.s...@citrix.com]
> > >>Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 7:01 AM
> > >>To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > >>Subject: [DISCUSS] Persistent Networks without a running VM
> > >>
> > >>Hi,
> > >>
> > >>I would like to propose a new feature for persistent networks
> without
> > >>running VMs. I have created a JIRA ticket and provided the
> > >>requirements at the following location.  Please provide feedback on
> the
> > requirements.
> > >>
> > >>JIRA Ticket: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-706
> > >>Requirements:
> >
> >>https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Persistent+Net
> w
> > >>ork
> > >>s
> > >>
> > >>Regards,
> > >>Manan Shah
> > >>
> > >

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