We had a discussion on moving the 'persistent' flag to the network
offering?

On 1/7/13 3:38 AM, "Likitha Shetty" <likitha.she...@citrix.com> wrote:

>Created the first draft of the Functional spec -
>https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/FS+-+Persistent+Net
>works.
>Will keep updating it based on the feedback.
>
>Thank you,
>Likitha
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Manan Shah [mailto:manan.s...@citrix.com]
>> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 10:26 PM
>> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Persistent Networks without a running VM
>> 
>> Chiradeep, Likitha,
>> 
>> My take is that we need to support both kinds of networks (persistent
>>as well as
>> non-persistent). Also, I don't think we can have this as a zone-wide
>>behavior
>> because not all networks in a zone would need to be persistent.
>> 
>> For example, if you are deploying a multi-tier application, you might
>>only want
>> the DB tier to be persistent.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Manan Shah
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 1/3/13 11:31 PM, "Ram Ganesh" <ram.gan...@citrix.com> wrote:
>> 
>> >Does it make sense to introduce the flag(persistent) as part of
>> >NetworkOffering?
>> >
>> >Thanks,
>> >RamG
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Likitha Shetty [mailto:likitha.she...@citrix.com]
>> >> Sent: 03 January 2013 18:05
>> >> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> >> Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] Persistent Networks without a running VM
>> >>
>> >> Please find my answers and queries inline.
>> >>
>> >> Thank you,
>> >> Likitha
>> >>
>> >> > -----Original Message-----
>> >> > From: Chiradeep Vittal [mailto:chiradeep.vit...@citrix.com]
>> >> > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 1:03 PM
>> >> > To: CloudStack DeveloperList
>> >> > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Persistent Networks without a running VM
>> >> >
>> >> > So:
>> >> > 1. There needs to be both kinds of networks available (persistent
>> >> > as
>> >> well as non-
>> >> > persistent) in the same zone?
>> >> Yes
>> >>
>> >> > From an end-user perspective this is going to be confusing since
>> >> > she
>> >> has not
>> >> > been exposed to this internal state before (and generally the end-
>> >> user is not
>> >> > aware of the internal state of the infrastructure).
>> >> +1. Say we have a new API 'ProvisionNetwork' to provision a network
>> >> that has been created by the user. Since the user is not aware of the
>> >> internal state of a network it would be confusing for the user to
>> >> understand the difference b/w the 2 API's, CreateNetwork and
>> >> ProvisionNetwork.
>> >>
>> >> > Is it OK to make this behavior
>> >> > zone-wide, I.e., on every guest network?
>> >> But this would mean having all networks (in the zone which has this
>> >> behavior enabled) in an implemented state, even if a network has no
>> >> physical device or VM deployed in it. This is changing the default CS
>> >> behavior of not having resources allocated to a network if the
>> >> network doesn't require it. Is that acceptable ?
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On 12/31/12 10:19 AM, "Manan Shah" <manan.s...@citrix.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > >Thanks Likitha for picking up this requirement. You have correctly
>> >> > >interpreted the requirements.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >Regards,
>> >> > >Manan Shah
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >On 12/31/12 2:52 AM, "Likitha Shetty" <likitha.she...@citrix.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > >>Hi,
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>I would like to work on the proposed feature.
>> >> > >>Restating the requirement. Currently in CloudStack when a user
>> >> creates
>> >> > >>a network, a db entry for that network is made, a VLAN ID is
>> >> assigned
>> >> > >>and the network is created only when the first VM on that network
>> >> is
>> >> > created.
>> >> > >>With this feature CloudStack should allow users to provision the
>> >> > >>created network i.e. assign a VLAN ID and implement the network
>> >> > >>without having to deploy VM's on that network.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>Comments/Suggestions on the requirement ?
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>Thank you,
>> >> > >>Likitha
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>-----Original Message-----
>> >> > >>From: Manan Shah [mailto:manan.s...@citrix.com]
>> >> > >>Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 7:01 AM
>> >> > >>To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> >> > >>Subject: [DISCUSS] Persistent Networks without a running VM
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>Hi,
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>I would like to propose a new feature for persistent networks
>> >> without
>> >> > >>running VMs. I have created a JIRA ticket and provided the
>> >> > >>requirements at the following location.  Please provide feedback
>> >> > >>on
>> >> the
>> >> > requirements.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>JIRA Ticket: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-706
>> >> > >>Requirements:
>> >> >
>> >> >>https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Persistent+N
>> >> >>et
>> >> w
>> >> > >>ork
>> >> > >>s
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>Regards,
>> >> > >>Manan Shah
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >
>> >
>

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