We had a discussion on moving the 'persistent' flag to the network offering?
On 1/7/13 3:38 AM, "Likitha Shetty" <likitha.she...@citrix.com> wrote: >Created the first draft of the Functional spec - >https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/FS+-+Persistent+Net >works. >Will keep updating it based on the feedback. > >Thank you, >Likitha > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Manan Shah [mailto:manan.s...@citrix.com] >> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 10:26 PM >> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Persistent Networks without a running VM >> >> Chiradeep, Likitha, >> >> My take is that we need to support both kinds of networks (persistent >>as well as >> non-persistent). Also, I don't think we can have this as a zone-wide >>behavior >> because not all networks in a zone would need to be persistent. >> >> For example, if you are deploying a multi-tier application, you might >>only want >> the DB tier to be persistent. >> >> Regards, >> Manan Shah >> >> >> >> >> On 1/3/13 11:31 PM, "Ram Ganesh" <ram.gan...@citrix.com> wrote: >> >> >Does it make sense to introduce the flag(persistent) as part of >> >NetworkOffering? >> > >> >Thanks, >> >RamG >> > >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: Likitha Shetty [mailto:likitha.she...@citrix.com] >> >> Sent: 03 January 2013 18:05 >> >> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org >> >> Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] Persistent Networks without a running VM >> >> >> >> Please find my answers and queries inline. >> >> >> >> Thank you, >> >> Likitha >> >> >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> >> > From: Chiradeep Vittal [mailto:chiradeep.vit...@citrix.com] >> >> > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 1:03 PM >> >> > To: CloudStack DeveloperList >> >> > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Persistent Networks without a running VM >> >> > >> >> > So: >> >> > 1. There needs to be both kinds of networks available (persistent >> >> > as >> >> well as non- >> >> > persistent) in the same zone? >> >> Yes >> >> >> >> > From an end-user perspective this is going to be confusing since >> >> > she >> >> has not >> >> > been exposed to this internal state before (and generally the end- >> >> user is not >> >> > aware of the internal state of the infrastructure). >> >> +1. Say we have a new API 'ProvisionNetwork' to provision a network >> >> that has been created by the user. Since the user is not aware of the >> >> internal state of a network it would be confusing for the user to >> >> understand the difference b/w the 2 API's, CreateNetwork and >> >> ProvisionNetwork. >> >> >> >> > Is it OK to make this behavior >> >> > zone-wide, I.e., on every guest network? >> >> But this would mean having all networks (in the zone which has this >> >> behavior enabled) in an implemented state, even if a network has no >> >> physical device or VM deployed in it. This is changing the default CS >> >> behavior of not having resources allocated to a network if the >> >> network doesn't require it. Is that acceptable ? >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On 12/31/12 10:19 AM, "Manan Shah" <manan.s...@citrix.com> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > >Thanks Likitha for picking up this requirement. You have correctly >> >> > >interpreted the requirements. >> >> > > >> >> > >Regards, >> >> > >Manan Shah >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >On 12/31/12 2:52 AM, "Likitha Shetty" <likitha.she...@citrix.com> >> >> wrote: >> >> > > >> >> > >>Hi, >> >> > >> >> >> > >>I would like to work on the proposed feature. >> >> > >>Restating the requirement. Currently in CloudStack when a user >> >> creates >> >> > >>a network, a db entry for that network is made, a VLAN ID is >> >> assigned >> >> > >>and the network is created only when the first VM on that network >> >> is >> >> > created. >> >> > >>With this feature CloudStack should allow users to provision the >> >> > >>created network i.e. assign a VLAN ID and implement the network >> >> > >>without having to deploy VM's on that network. >> >> > >> >> >> > >>Comments/Suggestions on the requirement ? >> >> > >> >> >> > >>Thank you, >> >> > >>Likitha >> >> > >> >> >> > >>-----Original Message----- >> >> > >>From: Manan Shah [mailto:manan.s...@citrix.com] >> >> > >>Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 7:01 AM >> >> > >>To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org >> >> > >>Subject: [DISCUSS] Persistent Networks without a running VM >> >> > >> >> >> > >>Hi, >> >> > >> >> >> > >>I would like to propose a new feature for persistent networks >> >> without >> >> > >>running VMs. I have created a JIRA ticket and provided the >> >> > >>requirements at the following location. Please provide feedback >> >> > >>on >> >> the >> >> > requirements. >> >> > >> >> >> > >>JIRA Ticket: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-706 >> >> > >>Requirements: >> >> > >> >> >>https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Persistent+N >> >> >>et >> >> w >> >> > >>ork >> >> > >>s >> >> > >> >> >> > >>Regards, >> >> > >>Manan Shah >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> > >