David,

I agree you -- what development work is required?  SNMP <> JMX bridges are 
available from various third parties.   A minimal bridge is provided in the Sun 
JRE [1].  log4j message formats are highly configurable [2] to conform to the 
expectations of almost any conceivable downstream log file collection and 
analysis package.

Thanks,
-John

[1] http://docs.oracle.com/javase/6/docs/technotes/guides/management/snmp.html
[2] 
http://logging.apache.org/log4j/1.2/apidocs/org/apache/log4j/PatternLayout.html

On Jan 8, 2013, at 10:48 AM, David Nalley <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Ram Ganesh <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Chip Childers [mailto:[email protected]]
>>> Sent: 04 January 2013 00:13
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Syslog enhancements
>>> 
>>> I think that Ram and Hari are talking about CloudStack system "events"
>>> (call this set 1). The log4j conversation is around log messages being
>>> sent through the logger (call this set 2).
>>> 
>>> If we assume that (2) is a superset of (1), then IMO there is no
>>> reason to do something different from the log4j syslog appender.  On
>>> the other hand, if there is a portion of set (1) that is not included
>>> in set (2), then I actually think we have a logging problem to fix.
>> 
>> Sorry for getting back late on this. The intent of this enhancement is to 
>> send out system events in multiple(configured) formats. SNMP and Syslogs are 
>> two formats. Users can choose the format of their interest based on their 
>> existing element management infrastructure. Currently in CloudStack I guess 
>> not all system events are logged into the log file.
>> 
>> 
> 
> As verbose as our logs are, there are still things missing from them??  :)
> 
> --David

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