Can we get a firm answer if we are go for abusing the reply-all button now?
Thanks. -kd >-----Original Message----- >From: Sheng Yang [mailto:sh...@yasker.org] >Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 3:44 PM >To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org >Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Email etiquette CC or not CC > >On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 3:32 PM, Rohit Yadav <bhais...@apache.org> wrote: >>>>> Even if we adopt ccing, it is a convention to get a more efficient traffic >flow. It is not a must. It is your responsibility to adopt the conventions that >have evolved on the list to make the list more efficient such as tagged topics >and ccing. >>>> >>>> What's the follow up? >>>> >>>> I think we agree to try adapt CC style? >> >> I think so, I see few emails with CCs in them. Send emails with CC to >> respective person boldly, and let them configure their email client so >> the email does not show up as two emails in their inbox. > >One thing need to be done from manager of the mailing list. Currently the >mailing list automatically remove all the CC/TO except mailing list address itself >when sending out the mails, and no way to get people CCed automatically >after that. > >And with CC, the most important thing to remember is: Reply All. It would be a >common mistakes when we start trying it, but I am sure we would be used to >it soon. > >--Sheng >> >> Regards. >> >>> >>> Sorry, I meant try to adopt CC style. >>> >>> --Sheng >>>> >>>> --Sheng >>>>> >>>>> --Alex >>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: Sheng Yang [mailto:sh...@yasker.org] >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 3:01 PM >>>>>> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org >>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Email etiquette CC or not CC >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Chip Childers >>>>>> <chip.child...@sungard.com> wrote: >>>>>> > On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 6:43 PM, Edison Su <edison...@citrix.com> >wrote: >>>>>> >> Hi all, >>>>>> >> I am struggling to read all the emails on dev list >>>>>> >> everyday, it's just so >>>>>> many emails. Is it possible, that enable/allow/encourage us CC to >>>>>> somebody if you think the topic he/she should take a look at? I >>>>>> think it will save both of us a lot of time. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Edison, >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I'm fine with CC'ing someone specific when I know that I need >>>>>> > their attention, but two caveats that I'm worried about are: >>>>>> > >>>>>> > 1 - I find myself often needing the whole community's attention, >>>>>> > for VOTE threads or release planning updates, etc... I struggle >>>>>> > to understand how folks want to see this. I thought that VOTE >>>>>> > and ACS41 would be sufficient headers for people to actually pay >>>>>> > attention to, but it appears to not be working. >>>>>> >>>>>> I believe the header should be sufficient in the most case, and >>>>>> that's exactly what's mostly other community did. But as you feel >>>>>> that it's not working well, that's probably means, people are >>>>>> lazy, in nature(though I think it's may be improved with CC'ing >>>>>> someone directly, but this should not be an issue even with our >>>>>> current mailing list policy). >>>>>> > >>>>>> > 2 - If someone starts a thread, I would expect that they would >>>>>> > actually pay attention to that thread! I've seen times when >>>>>> > people start a thread, but don't respond to queries from others >>>>>> > in the community. This is especially vexing when the thread is >>>>>> > about a work that's in progress. >>>>>> >>>>>> That's exactly what we want to address. People are not intently >>>>>> drop the thread, most of time, they just forgot. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you start e.g. 5 threads in a day, you maybe miss one or two of >>>>>> them in the next day. Or you start a thread one week ago but only >>>>>> got response 1 week later, you also may be miss it completely. And >>>>>> I personally feel even I am intently to find back my thread, it >>>>>> would take 10s even 30s to find my thread - it's very possible I >>>>>> missed it when skim for the first time, then realize where is that >>>>>> thread? Then check back again(that's what's happened to me this >>>>>> morning). That's very annoying. I suppose we would deal with the >>>>>> mailing list based on a priority, even we would skim them all. Of >>>>>> course on the top of priority list is the threads I involved. But >>>>>> I cannot tell which one it is with a glimpse in tens even hundreds >>>>>> of mails. What's we want, is we can pay attention to our threads easily. >>>>>> >>>>>> LKML received hundreds of mail every day, I cannot image how can >>>>>> Linus Torvalds or Andrew Morton survive if the mail is only sent >>>>>> to mailing list, and they have to go through all the mails to find >>>>>> out which one got their attention yesterday(though I also believe >>>>>> they got tons of CC or TO mails as well). >>>>>> >>>>>> --Sheng >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Thoughts? >>>>>> > >>>>>> > -chip