Physicaly, I project to put following : In the *Vlan1 *: Management srv, *host (bond-0)* and* storage server ==> VLAN1 has been reserved for computes node* In the *Vlan2 *: Guest VMs , and *Host (bond-1)*
If I apply your recommandation, *Storage server* should be in Vlan2 ? bat not in vlan1 ? My Cloud can be run fine if the Management Server and the Storage Serve are not on the same VLAN ? I'm not sure. regard On 20 September 2012 17:54, Clayton Weise <cwe...@iswest.net> wrote: > On the management server you could do tagged interfaces (VLAN) on the same > NIC, but on your hosts I would recommend using 1 NIC for storage and 1 NIC > for management and guest traffic. > > -----Original Message----- > From: claude bariot [mailto:clobar...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 2:32 AM > To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: CLoudStack and OpenFiler2.99 > > For your VLAN question. You can put both VLANs on the same interface if > you want, but I recommend that you keep management and storage traffic on > separate NICs for performance reasons. ==> on the* Management server* NICs > same ? I separate also to the *Host *NICs ? > > On 20 September 2012 09:17, claude bariot <clobar...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Thanks lot for your response. > > > > regards > > > > > > On 19 September 2012 21:57, Clayton Weise <cwe...@iswest.net> wrote: > > > >> The LVM volumes are not files, so no you can't save them like that. > They > >> can be converted to VHD files though, which is what CloudStack does when > >> you take a snapshot of a volume. CloudStack converts the LVM to a VHD > file > >> and places it on secondary storage. > >> > >> For your VLAN question. You can put both VLANs on the same interface if > >> you want, but I recommend that you keep management and storage traffic > on > >> separate NICs for performance reasons. > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: claude bariot [mailto:clobar...@gmail.com] > >> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 12:06 PM > >> To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org > >> Subject: Re: CLoudStack and OpenFiler2.99 > >> > >> If I need to backup VMs root disks, I same can save this files ? > >> > >> I've another question concerning VLAN : > >> I project to create 2 vlans : vlan1 for admin trafics between Management > >> serv, hosts and storage node. > >> And vlan2 for VMs trafics (Application Vlan). > >> > >> My question is : It's necessary to attribute 1 host NIC (eth0) for vlan1 > >> and the second host NIC (eth1) for vlan2 ? > >> > >> I hope that I'll have a response quiqly. > >> > >> regard > >> > >> > >> On 19 September 2012 18:16, Clayton Weise <cwe...@iswest.net> wrote: > >> > >> > Right, those are LVM volumes that have been created by XenServer and > >> > assigned to virtual machines. If you want to see what VMs they're > >> attached > >> > to you can run various 'xe' commands to see. For example, 'xe > vm-list' > >> > will give you a list of all of your VMs. If you know the UUID of the > VM > >> > already then you can run 'xe vm-disk-list uuid=(uuid)' where (uuid) is > >> the > >> > UUID of the VM in question. > >> > > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > From: claude bariot [mailto:clobar...@gmail.com] > >> > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 3:04 AM > >> > To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org > >> > Subject: Re: CLoudStack and OpenFiler2.99 > >> > > >> > ok > >> > look below, what I see from the Management server : > >> > > >> > root@cloud-cms1:/export/primary# *ls -l > >> > /dev/VG_XenStorage-d870c716-4c81-1a64-4d90-5a91f835f422/* > >> > total 0 > >> > drwxr-xr-x. 2 root root 240 2012-09-13 16:56 ./ > >> > drwxr-xr-x. 18 root root 3620 2012-09-17 15:40 ../ > >> > lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 110 2012-09-13 16:56 > >> > hb-5010b2b2-8cb4-447d-aae1-2453571df587 -> > >> > > >> > > >> > ../mapper/VG_XenStorage--d870c716--4c81--1a64--4d90--5a91f835f422-hb--5010b2b2--8cb4--447d--aae1--2453571df587 > >> > lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 110 2012-09-13 16:56 > >> > hb-c1a30f79-7327-4f16-b450-defa14442433 -> > >> > > >> > > >> > ../mapper/VG_XenStorage--d870c716--4c81--1a64--4d90--5a91f835f422-hb--c1a30f79--7327--4f16--b450--defa14442433 > >> > lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 69 2012-09-13 16:56 MGT -> > >> > ../mapper/VG_XenStorage--d870c716--4c81--1a64--4d90--5a91f835f422-MGT > >> > lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 111 2012-09-13 16:56 > >> > VHD-35e13f3a-e126-4e7a-bb7d-1e1732f59e84 -> > >> > > >> > > >> > ../mapper/VG_XenStorage--d870c716--4c81--1a64--4d90--5a91f835f422-VHD--35e13f3a--e126--4e7a--bb7d--1e1732f59e84 > >> > lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 111 2012-09-13 16:56 > >> > VHD-38afc9cc-366e-44bd-95a9-21fd2f194785 -> > >> > > >> > > >> > ../mapper/VG_XenStorage--d870c716--4c81--1a64--4d90--5a91f835f422-VHD--38afc9cc--366e--44bd--95a9--21fd2f194785 > >> > lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 111 2012-09-13 16:56 > >> > VHD-51b1d1f7-767f-4268-ab07-696932dddc96 -> > >> > > >> > > >> > ../mapper/VG_XenStorage--d870c716--4c81--1a64--4d90--5a91f835f422-VHD--51b1d1f7--767f--4268--ab07--696932dddc96 > >> > lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 111 2012-09-13 16:56 > >> > VHD-5c717365-bbab-4781-a1ea-4651db5efca6 -> > >> > > >> > > >> > ../mapper/VG_XenStorage--d870c716--4c81--1a64--4d90--5a91f835f422-VHD--5c717365--bbab--4781--a1ea--4651db5efca6 > >> > lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 111 2012-09-13 16:56 > >> > VHD-b849c29a-e7aa-4d77-b965-7845e8be079b -> > >> > > >> > > >> > ../mapper/VG_XenStorage--d870c716--4c81--1a64--4d90--5a91f835f422-VHD--b849c29a--e7aa--4d77--b965--7845e8be079b > >> > lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 111 2012-09-13 16:56 > >> > VHD-c23673fb-3e40-4b0f-9cee-e2c947bdda59 -> > >> > > >> > > >> > ../mapper/VG_XenStorage--d870c716--4c81--1a64--4d90--5a91f835f422-VHD--c23673fb--3e40--4b0f--9cee--e2c947bdda59 > >> > lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 111 2012-09-13 16:56 > >> > VHD-d2358d95-b4e8-4426-9c68-33686251a2b3 -> > >> > > >> > > >> > ../mapper/VG_XenStorage--d870c716--4c81--1a64--4d90--5a91f835f422-VHD--d2358d95--b4e8--4426--9c68--33686251a2b3 > >> > > >> > > >> > There are VMs roots volumes stored into the Primary storage ? > >> > If it's true, what can I associate this files with VMs hostname or > >> Instance > >> > name ? > >> > > >> > Regards > >> > > >> > > >> > On 18 September 2012 18:31, Jason Davis <scr...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > > >> > > Hence why you should consider NFS for management simplicity :) > >> > > > >> > > On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Clayton Weise <cwe...@iswest.net> > >> > wrote: > >> > > > >> > > > If it's a LUN, it's a block device. You can't just look in "/" > and > >> > find > >> > > > it. In the case of XenServer, it creates a CLVM device for the > >> iSCSI > >> > or > >> > > FC > >> > > > LUN and that logical volume is shared amongst all of the hosts in > >> the > >> > > > cluster. Then, for each virtual disk (VDI) you create XenServer > >> > creates > >> > > an > >> > > > LVM "partition" (partition isn't actually the correct technical > >> term, > >> > but > >> > > > it's the easiest way to express it) for that virtual disk. So > >> > > essentially, > >> > > > each virtual disk is another LVM partition. > >> > > > > >> > > > It's not a filesystem, it's not like NFS. You can't just browse > >> into > >> > it, > >> > > > in the same way you can't just plug in a hard drive and browse > into > >> > that > >> > > > either. You need a filesystem on top of the block device that you > >> then > >> > > > need to mount. > >> > > > > >> > > > If you're used to iSCSI or FC with VMware the reason you can > browse > >> > into > >> > > a > >> > > > block device is because VMware formats the device with a > filesystem > >> > > called > >> > > > VMFS. In the case of XenServer, there is no file system, just > block > >> > > > devices that are handed to individual virtual machines. > >> > > > > >> > > > -----Original Message----- > >> > > > From: claude bariot [mailto:clobar...@gmail.com] > >> > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 7:31 AM > >> > > > To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org > >> > > > Subject: Re: CLoudStack and OpenFiler2.99 > >> > > > > >> > > > Thanks for this precision. > >> > > > > >> > > > Bat, How can I display datas (VMs Root DISKs) on the Lun ? > >> > > > I'll need to do ls command into the storage server or not / > >> > > > How can I find stored directory when I would like to display files > >> ... > >> > > > > >> > > > regards > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > On 18 September 2012 16:14, Jason Davis <scr...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > > > Remember that if you will be presenting LUNs to your XenServer > >> > Cluster, > >> > > > > that the LUN is effectively shared between all hosts within the > >> > > > cluster... > >> > > > > ie: LUNs are not tied to a specific host per say. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 8:38 AM, claude bariot < > >> clobar...@gmail.com> > >> > > > > wrote: > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > We'll using XenServer as Hypervisor. > >> > > > > > My boss prefere to create same Luns with OpenFiler, then each > >> Lun > >> > > will > >> > > > be > >> > > > > > attached to Xen Host. > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > May be we can use it as a local primary storage. > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > I know that, We can add PS via CS UI. > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > On 18 September 2012 15:21, Jason Davis <scr...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Ah time to chime in :) > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > I would recommend using NFS for primary and secondary > >> storage... > >> > > NFS > >> > > > is > >> > > > > > > *much* more straight forward. That and VM's provisioned via > >> NFS > >> > are > >> > > > > > > inherently thin. With iSCSI this may or may not be true > >> > (dependent > >> > > on > >> > > > > > what > >> > > > > > > hypervisor is being used.) > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Based on what you are setting up, the theoretical speed > >> > advantages > >> > > of > >> > > > > > iSCSI > >> > > > > > > vs NFSv3 are moot. > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > -Jason > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 6:23 AM, claude bariot < > >> > > clobar...@gmail.com> > >> > > > > > > wrote: > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > One more question : > >> > > > > > > > How can I find files (for Primary and Secondary Storage) > >> When > >> > > there > >> > > > > are > >> > > > > > > > using Iscsi device (Luns) ? > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > regards > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > On 18 September 2012 10:30, claude bariot < > >> clobar...@gmail.com > >> > > > >> > > > > wrote: > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I building a testbed plateform. > >> > > > > > > > > Could you let me know, the pest precedures (best way) > for > >> > > > configure > >> > > > > > it. > >> > > > > > > > > I have 2 hosts (xenserver), 1 Mangement server (Ubuntu > >> > 10.04) 1 > >> > > > > > storage > >> > > > > > > > > server with OpenFiler > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I need the process please .. > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > regards > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > On 17 September 2012 23:51, Geoff Higginbottom < > >> > > > > > > > > geoff.higginbot...@shapeblue.com> wrote: > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> Hi Claude, > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> We have frequently used OpenFiler on our test and proof > >> of > >> > > > concept > >> > > > > > > (POC) > >> > > > > > > > >> builds, however to be fair none of our clients have > ever > >> > used > >> > > it > >> > > > > in > >> > > > > > a > >> > > > > > > > >> production environment. > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> Regards > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> Geoff > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> On 17 Sep 2012, at 14:45, "claude bariot" < > >> > > clobar...@gmail.com> > >> > > > > > > wrote: > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> Hello > >> > > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > >> Someone has already used CloudStack with OpenFiler as > >> > storage > >> > > > > > > > management ? > >> > > > > > > > >> ShapeBlue provides a range of strategic and technical > >> > > consulting > >> > > > > and > >> > > > > > > > >> implementation services to help IT Service Providers > and > >> > > > > Enterprises > >> > > > > > > to > >> > > > > > > > >> build a true IaaS compute cloud. 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