Re: (clug-talk) Linux and Embedded News

[S�bastien Taylor]

Well, a home automation system probably wouldn't run off you desktop
system, unless it's a hobyist/amateur installation. But bonuses could be
having motion detection system with cameras that could automatically
send video footage to the police department if someone breaks into your
house while you're away on vacation. In the end, some people will want
it, and others will not. Much like some people are still using typewriters ;-)


Le Jeudi, 31 octo 2002, � 20:48 Canada/Mountain, Kevin Anderson a �crit :

Joe Homeowner running Windows 95 (complete with Nimda for the past 18
Months) isn't responsible for securing my bank.

On the other hand, Joe Homeowner would be responsible for securing what
would almost definately be a wireless home network.

Further, I have a recourse against the bank. If my credit card is used
fraudulently, I am responsible for the first $50. And generally, even that
is waived. If my house burns down, insurance would replace it, but I'd be
in a tough spot regardless. Maybe my house wouldn't burn down, it would be
something that's just irritating, say shrinking all of my underwear 5 sizes
down or something. Plus, even something simple, such as an alarm system
being repeatedly set off at 3AM would be enough to prove the point.
Neighbors hating me has no dollar value, but it still matters.

Your analogy doesn't fit.

Kev.



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Uh, ok, how about all your money disapearing with no trace that it ever
existed? Yet I assume you still use banks, which are all computerized.

And you /would/ want to lower the heat during someone's out of town winter
holiday.

And you might not have a choice anyways, some of these things might be
installed by the power company.

Le 30 Octobre 2002 23:03, vous avez �crit :

The risks with a totally wired home are pretty high...

Turn the AC on full blast on days like today.
Crank the hear during the summer.
Run the drier for several days straight or until it catches fire.
Shut off the heat during the person's out of town winter holidays.
Shut off the person's deep freeze, so that their food goes bad.
Turn on the over to maximum temperature (generally the self-cleaning

cycle)

until it starts a fire.
etc.
etc.
etc.

There is no compelling reason for these things to be networked, and there
are some serious ones against doing it. Count me as a luddite in this
regard.

Kev.

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From: "S�bastien Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 5:33 PM
Subject: Re: (clug-talk) Linux and Embedded News

Le 30 Octobre 2002 17:13, vous avez �crit :

On Wednesday 30 October 2002 10:10, Johnny Stork wrote:

IMHO, one of my beleifs is that Linux and OSS will play a significant

and

major role in the growing world of smart/embedded devices especially

in

the "smart" home

the smart home and ubiquitous computing has been promised for some 20

years

now. it has yet to arrive. why? because there are no compelling reasons
to move to such technologies. eventually someone will find a real solid
use for the tech and then it will creep into most houses.

The �smart� home thing has been happening and continues to do so.  But
generally this technology is hidden from the user, that way he doesn't

know

it's there, but he has that much less to worry about.  That's the way,

imo,

that it should work...I would hate to have to supply someone a user's
manual for their new house ;-)

chasing technology for technologies sake as a means to create market
share is a wild goose chase IMO. create techonology that does something
you want and will use every day. forget the rest, no matter how much the
concept makes you drool as a technophile.

Heh, yeah, like the whole �internet appliance� thing, neat if you have
1000$ you were just going to use as firestarter, but for that price you
could get a
computer, or a dreamcast with a keyboard (which runs Linux and NetBSD).

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