I've found the opposite, it has taken me 3 or 4 hours to build a windows
2000 server from blank harddrive to complete because of all the patches
you need to do and reboots, etc.  I can build and configure a Linux server
running Apache, Qmail/Postfix (With or without Antivirus scanning and Spam
detection), Courier-IMAP and Samba in 1.5 to 2 hours... including all
updates.

> I've found that setting up a Linux server takes longer than a Windows
> server.
>
> However the end result takes far less maintenance, and therefore, it's
> worthwhile.
>
> Desktops would be no different.  I would gladly take a full day to set
> up each desktop if I knew that they would run flawlessly from the time I
> walked away until it was time to replace the box.  Linux is much closer
> to providing that than Windows.
>
> Kev.
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Johnny Stork
>   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 3:12 PM
>   Subject: Re: Re: (clug-talk) Linux Work
>
>
>   Just thought I would throw in my 2 bits. I have been using Linux as a
> desktop system for around 3 years now, and started using and doing
> some development on Linux, back when there were things like the
> "Network Desktop", or no gui at all let alone gnome or KDE. So I have
> seen it grow in spectacular ways since the early-mid 90's. However,
> even today I still find many "typical" requirements like faxing,
> printing, reliable and predictable behaviour from applications like
> word processors, business analysis applications etc, are not quite
> there yet and require far too much effort when compare to
> out-of-the-box Windows systems. I also have various data analysis,
> graphing and modelling requirements which so far, I can only satisfy
> with windows based propietory applications. I would certainly like to
> make the switch entirely, but for any "shop" or business with anything
> but the simplest requirements, it will need to be a joint
> Linux/Microsoft world for the time being. Not to say tha! t this may
> not change, since I beleive it will.
>
>
>
>   >
>   >
>   > -----Original message-----
>   > From: "Michael Buckley"
>   > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   > Date: 11/29/2002(Fri) 01:08pm
>   > Subject: Re: (clug-talk) Linux Work
>   >
>   > >>I honestly DO NOT THINK that Linux is ready for the desktoop, till
> mid 2005.
>   >
>   > Did you pick that date from a hat, or you just have a good feeling
> about the number 5, and the summer months?
>   >
>   > I think for alot of companies, Linux is definetely ready for the
> desktop. Why couldn't an office admin/person be using linux as
> his/her desktop?
>   >
>   > M
>   >
>   >
>   > ----- Original Message -----
>   > From: Richard Jenniss
>   > Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 03:57:12 +0000
>   > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   > Subject: Re: (clug-talk) Linux Work
>   >
>   >
>   > > Honestly put, man. ...
>   > > Linux has < 1% of the desktop market.
>   > > (If I'm wrong, on these figures, PLEASE, update me)
>   > >
>   > > I've been with Linux, on/off for 3years, which I think is SFA...
> More activly as such, i've used it on my MAIN workstation, the
> only one I have, since late July... (No OS's but the Linux and OSS
> software)
>   > > I've learned lots, but I've also learned.. :(
>   > >
>   > > I honestly don't think, Linux, and the free software it can be
> bundle'd with, in many of the latest distributions, IS NOT desktop
> ready. It's not, It's not, It's not. Unbiased and I hate
> microsoft, but I don't thinkk ALL distributions are desktop ready
> yet.
>   > >
>   > > AS AN ADMINISTRATOR, Linux is ALL OVER the server. Linux Ownz
> micros~1 win/dos completely. Windows is a fucking server that is
> trying to grow up. Pleaase. I'd rather cut off my fingers.
>   > >
>   > > I honestly DO NOT THINK that Linux is ready for the desktoop, till
> mid 2005.
>   > >
>   > > Proove me wrong, I have not much time to contribute in builidng
> software :(.
>   > >
>   > > If anyone thinks Microsoft lost, just like that.... You have to be
> kidding yourself. Microsoft can, and has, research, lawyers,
> market analysts, etc... They have more resources than we can EVER
> dream off, there's no point in predicticting MS's outcome, ever.
> All we can do, is persue our computing passion. Do what is right.
> Code what should be universal.
>   > >
>   > > Caan't steal what is pure of heart.
>   > >
>   > > Rich.
>   > >
>   > > On Thu, 28 Nov 2002 22:20:48 -0700
>   > > Roy Souther wrote:
>   > >
>   > > > www.monster.com search for Linux
>   > > >
>   > > > On Thu, 2002-11-28 at 22:07, Trevor Lauder wrote:
>   > > >
>   > > > I was just wondering if anyone had any leads on Linux systems
> administrator jobs or anything in the IT field? I recently lost
> my job because there wasn't enough work to keep me on and I'm
> trying to find another one, preferably in Linux.
>   > > >
>   > > > Thanks,
>   > > >
>   > > > Trevor
>   > > >
>   > > >
>   > > >
>   > > > Roy Souther
>   > > > www.SiliconTao.com
>   > > >
>   > > > Changing the way people do business.
>   > > >
>   > > >
>   > >
>   > >
>   >
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