Hi Mark,

Thanx for your timely and informed response. I will have Tim aquire the Tyan board and 
we will unlock the CPUs as per.

All the best, Dan.. 

----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tuesday, June 3, 2003 0:10 am
Subject: Re: (clug-talk) Via KT400 Chipset

> On Mon, 2003-06-02 at 16:31, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Mark Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Monday, June 2, 2003 3:38 pm
> > Subject: Re: (clug-talk) Via KT400 Chipset
> > 
> > > At 03:21 PM 6/2/03, you wrote:
> > > >All,
> > > >
> > > >Anyone have any experience with the new Via KT400 chipset? I'm 
> > > doing some
> > > >upgrades, and am going with an athlon this time, and was 
> > > wondering if anyone
> > > >has one, and would share their experience with me.
> > > 
> > > The KT400 Chipset is flaky under Linux. We have had problems 
> with 
> > > several 
> > > different boards. 
> > 
> > I have used a number of Gigabyte KT400s with zero trouble mind 
> you with lower speed memory and CPUs. Which specific MBs gave you 
> trouble Mark?
> 
> The MSI boards which are generally top notch. We were running 
> PC2100 in
> some and PC2700 in other systems. Our biggest problem was when 
> trying to
> use them in a server setting. The systems would eventually crash
> resulting in us having to provide the customer with a more 
> expensive but
> reliable system (A Tyan Tiger with just one processor).
> 
> We had a version with an extra fancy southbridge (Nicer sound, 
> DifferentAGP) than the standard KT400 chipset on a system in the 
> office. It would
> run okay most of the time but we were coming across problems in 
> Linux as
> well as in Windows.
> 
> The NForce2 Boards run stably with PC3200 and have lots more memory
> bandwidth due to the interleaving. Going from a KT400 with an XP 2400+
> to a NForce2 with a Barton XP 2500+ made a big difference in
> performance. Generally a speed increase that small shouldn't be 
> noticedby the system user as it will be less than a 20% performance 
> increase.But even with probably a slower onboard video card, 
> AutoCAD inventor was
> noticeably faster rendering on the NForce2. The Barton 2500+ has the
> same or lower clock speed than XP though it does have a much bigger
> cache  which gives it a bit better performance.
> > 
> > I would recommend the Nforce2 Board over any 
> > > other single 
> > > processor AMD board. Even with the closed source drivers, it's 
> > > faster and 
> > > runs much more stable. The best deal on an NForce2 board I have 
> > > seen is 
> > > BioStar's.
> > 
> > I use their vid card drivers because I have to, but should they 
> stop supporting their VC and MB chipsets were screwed. Its the only 
> reason I won't buy one of their boards ;-(
> > 
> > Mark,I have a buddy that wants to do an smp xp or mp box. Could 
> you recomend a good dual processor AMD MB for use as a workstation? 
> and can the XP processors be used for doing this?
> > 
> The best MP motherboard for this would be the Tyan Tiger 2466-4M. It's
> reasonally priced and is still a server quality board. To use XPs in
> this board you will have to unlock at least the cpu in socket one.
> Generally this requires taking some conductive paint and rejoining 
> somecut traces on the top of the chip. This is similar to what 
> needs to be
> done to remove the clock lock. Several overclocking sites have gone 
> overthe process.
> -- 
> Mark Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> 

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