Easy one line response.

Whatever Novell makes is the best available option, but they can't market to
save their lives (or that of their products) so they lose anyway because
nobody has ever heard of them.

Groupwise had features (like retracting a message) that Exchange, Notes, etc
still don't offer, and it has been several versions since I last used it.
NDS destroyes AD in almost every way, Scalability, Reliability, Ease of use,
etc.  And it's been around for well over a decade now.
Netware is rock solid, but to be fair, it soiled it's reputation from a
developer's perspective because writing NLMs was ugly at best.
ZENworks is everything you need for administrating desktops on a global
network.  It can even remotely reimage a user's PC at the click of a
checkbox.
Bordermanager is an excellent proxy cache, and administration is easy.
I'll even give credit to IPX, the old NetWare protocol.  It's been replaced
by TCP/IP now, but it was really easy to work with.  More so than TCP/IP.

I still use Novell's knowledgebase because it typically solves desktop
problems faster and more accurately than googling, and MS's search totally
sucks.

Novell is dying because developers hated the NLM structure.  Java eventually
became available, but it's not really appropriate for most server side
applications.  Also, Novell didn't market their products, and did even less
when they were directly attacked by Microsoft.  Novell gave me the stability
that has made Linux popular, but it was far easier to administrate a large
Netware backend.  This may be partly due to my lack of knowledge with Linux,
but I don't really think so.  Lots of other people are having the same
problems that I'm having. OpenLDAP will help with Linux, but that's still in
it's infancy adoption-wise.  One thing I will say, Linux is moving far
faster than Netware did.

Kev.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cameron Nikitiuk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 8:44 PM
Subject: RE: (clug-talk) (Notice) November Meeting


> I for one am looking forward to it.  I have always respected Novell...but
> don't know a huge amount about them and there products.  Will be a great
> chance to learn I think!
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Graham Monk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: November 4, 2003 7:14 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: (clug-talk) (Notice) November Meeting
> >
> >
> > On Wednesday 29 October 2003 18:22, you wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > November 2003 Meeting
> > >
> > > Topics:
> > >
> > > Presentation: Novell on Open Source Technology
> > > Michael Subasic (Solutions Architect - Novell)
> >
> > This could be a very interesting evening, was this just coincidence
> > or has Novell sent out people to a range of LUGs?
> >
> > Graham
> >
> >
>
>
>
>

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