I don't AT ALL mean to say Java is anything bad.  Java has it's place.  But
the Oracle engine doesn't run on Java.

Let me reword.  Applications that do not directly interact with humans
aren't written in Java.  or Applications that have no need to ever connect
to a browser aren't written in Java.  The VM just brings too much overhead
with it.  We're approaching the point where the brute force of processors
can compensate for the VM's lag, but still, where performance matters, Java
isn't the solution I see many people picking.

I've very much in favor of Java, both as a concept, and as a tool.  But
there are places that Java isn't appropriate as compared to something like
C.
Or, if you code like me, Qbasic...  :)

Kev.



On November 5, 2003 10:49 am, Kevin Anderson wrote:
> I meant Java isn't good for server side Applications, period.  Maybe not
> everything, but I'd hate to see Oracle run in a Java VM, for example.
Most
> server side apps are developed to be ran natively, regardless of the OS.
> (Exchange, Sendmail, Apache, Oracle, Postgres, BIND, SAMBA, etc)
>
> Kev.
>
Hmmm.  Not to start too much of a flamewar here, but you do know that
Oracle,
since 8i, contains boatloads of Java code, right?  You can even write stored
procedures in Java.  And that the one place I see Java really succeeding
right now is on the server - think app servers like JBoss, WebSphere, Bea,
for example.  I'm probably biased - DocVue, our product here at Full Circle,
is a server side app written in Java.  So I may have an opinion on the
subject.  But this is a Linux list, not a Java list, so I'll shut up now.
:-)


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