On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 23:29, Jesse Kline wrote:
> Quoting "Toole, Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Any one else tried fedora out? Comments?
> 
> Here's my experience with upgrading so far:
> 
> I'm trying to do a dist-upgrade from RedHat 9.0 to Fedora Core 1 for 2 reasons:
> 1) I don't have easy physical access to the box so I'm working over ssh.
> 2) Even if I did go to the box, it is an old machine and it does not read 
> burned CDs.
> 
> It is a fairly minimalist installation as it just runs the dyndns client, 
> sendmail for mail forwarding, and it is setup for ftp, but the ftp server is 
> not running at the moment. I do have X on there, but no desktop environments of 
> anything like that. The box has a small HD (about 1.5 GB I think) of which the 
> OS takes up most of. 
> 
> The first meathod I tried was with apt. I downloaded the RPM for Fedora so it 
> already came with the Fedora sources. I did an apt-get update which took about 
> a minute to run, and then an apt-get dist-upgrade. After a minute or so it gave 
> me a list of the packages it was going to upgrade/install/remove. The newly 
> installed packages were going to take up about 100MB which was most of the 
> space thart I had left on the HD. OK, so I whent into redhat-config-packages 
> and got rid of some of the shit that I don't need. Of course I still had the 
> problem that apt wanted to d/l ~300MB worth of RPMs and I don't have the space 
> to accomodate that. I looked through the apt man page but I cannot find a way 
> to get apt to delete packages as it goes (does anyone know how?).
> 
> So my second idea was to try yum in the hopes that it would be a little smarter 
> than apt. I downloaded the yum RPM and configured it for the Fedora source. I 
> then did a yum upgrade. The first thing it did was download all the headers for 
> the fedora RPMS. The yum website says this is a good thing because it speeds up 
> the upgrades and allows rpm to handle the deps. Problem is it took about 12 
> hours to d/l all the headers (so much for fast). After it was done it exited 
> with the error that redhat-config-securitylevel required lokkit. OK but I have 
> lokkit already installed on the box, and yum didn't give me any information as 
> to what version number it was looking for. So I uninstalled redhat-config-
> securitylevel and firstboot. Anyways to make a long story a little shorter, I 
> ran yum again this afternoon, and it started downloading the rpms. However I 
> suspect (seeing as it's not the brightest piece of software) that when I get 
> home tonight it will have downloaded enough rpms to fill up the HD, and exit 
> with an error.
> 
> If anyone has any suggestions please let me know, as for yum it seems like crap 
> to me, if I ever do get Fedora installed I will be sticking with apt or up2date.

Yum is very good at handling dependancy problems. It is much better than
apt-rpm. What it lacks though is a graphical interface. I think you will
find that yum is very efficient in handling updates. Where as if you
wanted to know what packages are available as 3rd Party addons, apt-rpm
and synergy will be much more convenient to use.

Though I am sure someone will do a frontend for Yum soon if it hasn't
already been done. 

Interestingly up2date can use both yum and apt-rpm sources so I guess
there's a GUI.

regards,

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