Ray and All: Ray - Nothing against you or your question. No offense intended, I'm not picking on you especially and I'm not trying to start a flame war. In fact, this is a very relevant and important issue, which is why I'm breaking my usual anonymous silence. If anything, this is merely my Monday morning rant!
On Fri, 6 Feb 2004, Raimundas wrote: > Perfect advice....though ....:( Please tell me how: "to get hired by > some medium to large industry with an IT department, sell your soul to > the devil so you could get into that department and let them train you > *AND* pay you at the same time." > > People with university degrees in computer science, years of experience > in different fields of computers and networking are trying to find some > job in any industry for even a "help wanted" range salary and can not > find anything. How do you think the person who is just looking for > introductory course in computers can be hired by an IT department? Maybe > you know some magic recipe? I would be really grateful if you could > provide it to me... Second paragraph, line 3 "... sell your soul to the devil..." It also helps if your Dad owns the company! I've had occasion to speak with many people about careers in other fields (e.g., EMT/paramedics, entomologists) and am frequently told the same thing. My question is "If those careers are so hard to get into because there are so many qualified applicants, why do you beat your head against a brick wall? If there's no hope there don't waste your time, find another career." The unilateral reply was "Well, that's the kind of work that I enjoy and what I want to do for a career." To me this transcends stupidity. It's got to be at least borderline insanity. There are so many other careers and interests out there that you could tackle successfully, and there is so much time left in your life for career development, even the development of *SEVERAL* careers, that locking yourself into one stream and bullheadedly sticking to it in spite of the overwhelming evidence that it's a hopeless endeavor and a bad idea seems a lot suicidal. Surely your mammy dropped you on your head as a baby or something! If you can't get a job setting up networks, writing code, debugging software switches or drawing circuits for LSI chip design, so be it. Admit that it was a bad idea and move on. There's nothing to say you can't set up networks, design chips and write code as a hobby or a small side business (after all, by your very own admission, you were more interested in the *KIND* of work than the money) and get a real job that *DOES* pay the mortgage and feed your family. Those cattle that follow the herd eventually are led to the abattoir. Think outside the box. Countdown: 563 days till retirement! But who's counting? Peace, health, wisdom and wealth. Live long and prosper. Stan Schultz Marguerite Schultz 4411 Edmonton Trail. NE Calgary, Alberta T2E 3V7 CANADA Phone (days): (403) 220-8570 (Leave message.) Phone (eves): (403) 230-1911 (Leave message.) Phone (cell): (403) 667-6697 (Forget it! It's never on!) FAX (24 hrs): (403) 270-8928 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.ucalgary.ca/~schultz/ "We are *NOT* tourists! We've been here for just hours and hours!" ***************************************************************** GREAT NEWS! You should visit http://www.ucalgary.ca/~schultz/motorhome.html. ***************************************************************** _______________________________________________ clug-talk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca

