On May 13, 2004 05:45 pm, Shawn Grover wrote: > I will agree that Co-op and such probably get their gas from the same > sources as the main stream gas stations. I'll even agree that most gas > stations are owned by small businesses. However, I believe that any main > stream gas station (Petro, Shell, Esso, etc.) are franchises, which means > part of their money goes back to the parent company (if I'm understanding > franchises properly).
Probably correct. Besides, if say 20 Shell franchises go under you can't tell me they aren't going to notice. As for the franchise owner, it sucks, but that's business. In small towns small 'general store' gas stations that have been there for years go under when the big boys move in if the town grows. Do they care? My concern is if these companies are 'allied' they may transfer funds to keep those taking a hit afloat. My opinion is that you're ignorant not to TRY. If it doesnt work you've lost nothing. 'The only thing evil needs to flourish is for good people to do nothing'. my opinion for what it's worth, Nick > > In addition, if Petro Canada (or Shell, or Esso, or ...) gas stations > suddenly lost half or more of their business, someone would be taking note > and trying to figure out why. If the person taking note is the small > business owner, then they will have a tough choice to make - follow their > rules and keep the prices set to what ever the parent company tells the to > set it to, or break the rule(s) and lower their prices to get customers > back. That is the way a business is supposed to run. It's called > competition. > > Have you not noticed that any gas station, regardless of location, tend to > bump their prices by the same amount as other stations in other locations? > A 6 cent increase accross the board suggests to me that there is price > fixing, or at least some kind of agreement, between the gas companies. If > not, then Shell would be raising their prices by a different amount than > Petro and Esso. > > So, while the core companies might still be making money if we were to not > use their gas stations, the message would still get across and their bottom > line would be affected anyways - maybe not significantly, but maybe enough > for them to take notice. > > My thoughts.... (erroneous as they may be) > > Shawn > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of Sheridan Hawken > Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 11:32 AM > To: CLUG General > Subject: Re: [clug-talk] OT: Fwd: A stand against high gas prices/ > worthreading! > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi All, > > I hate chain letter in general but ones that spread miss information are > worse. I would like to know where you think Co-op, Superstore, Canadian > Tire etc get their gas. Also most gas stations are owned by local small > business people not the company. Therefore you are not hurting the > company but the small business owner. The gas companies make money > regardless if you buy from their station or a no name. If you really > want to hurt them stop buying gas. > > my .02 > > Sheridan > > Jason Louie wrote: > | Sorry for the OT post but might be worth doing. Only buy from large > > store > > | chains, (lessen the distinction of Petro and Shell,) So get gas only > > from > > | Co-op, Superstore, Canadian Tire, Walmart... We want to hit the big gas > | companies. > | > | I don't normally send chain letters but I feel this is worth the cause. > | > | > | -----Original Message----- > | *snip* > | I'm not a big fan of email chains, but darn it, the thought of gas prices > | being over $1/L is ridiculous. > | Simply put ... don't buy gas at Shell or Petro Canada ... it makes > > sense to > > | me. > | Not a problem for me since I only buy from the grocery chains, Coop or > | Superstore. > | > | *snip* > | > | Don't forget Turbo is a subsidiary of Shell. > | > | *snip* > | > | -----Original Message----- > | > | I hear we are going to hit close to a $1.42 a Litre by the summer. Want > | > | gasoline prices to come down? We need to take some intelligent, united > | > | action. Phillip Hollsworth, offered this good idea: > | > | This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the don't buy gas on a certain day > | > | campaign that was going around last April or May! The oil companies just > | > | laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't continue to hurt ourselves > | > | by refusing to buy gas. It was more of an inconvenience to us than it > | > | was a problem for them. BUT, whoever thought of this idea, has come up > | > | with a plan that can really work. Please read it and join with us! > | > | > | > | By now you're probably thinking gasoline priced at about $.80 a litre > | > | is super cheap. Me too! It is currently .78 to .89 depending on what day > | > | it is,for regular unleaded gas in Montreal, Qc. We all know that we're > | > | being screwed by the oil companies. Does everyone remember how they > | > | drove up the prices way past a dollar and got the gas prices to where > | > | they wanted them, claiming there was a shortage of oil. > | > | > | > | Well, there isn't any shortage now, and the oil is more abundant than it > | > | was 35 years ago when the price of a litre of gas was 29 cents!!! > | > | > | > | Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us to > | > | think that the cost of a litre of gas is CHEAP at $0.78-$0.85, we need > | > | to take aggressive action to teach them that BUYERS control the > | > | marketplace....not sellers. With the price of gasoline going up more > | > | each day, we consumers need to take action. The only way we are going > | > | to see the price of gas come down is if we hit someone in the pocketbook > | > | by not purchasing their gas! And we can do that WITHOUT hurting > | > | ourselves. How? Since we all rely on our cars, we cant just stop buying > | > | gas. But we CAN have an impact on gas prices if we all act together to > | > | force a price war. > | > | > | > | Heres the idea: For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY gasoline > | > | from the two biggest companies (which now are one), PETRO CANADA, SHELL. > | > | If they are not selling any gas, they will be inclined to reduce their > | > | prices. If they reduce their prices, the other companies will have to > | > | follow suit. But to have an impact, we need to reach literally millions > | > | of PETRO CANADA and SHELL buyers. Its really simple to do!! Now, don't > | > | whimp out on me at this point...keep reading and I'll explain how simple > | > | it is to reach millions of people!! > | > | > | > | I am sending this note to at least thirty people. If each of you send it > | > | to at least ten more (30 x 10 = 300) ... and those 300 send it to at > | > | least ten more (300 x 10 = 3,000)...and so on, by the time the message > | > | reaches the sixth generation of people, we will have reached over THREE > | > | MILLION consumers! If those three million get excited and pass this on > | > | to ten friends each, then 30 million people will have been contacted! If > | > | it goes one level further, you guessed it..... THREE HUNDRED MILLION > | > | PEOPLE!!! > | > | > | > | Again, all You have to do is send this to 10 people. That's all (If you > | > | don't understand how we can reach 300 million and all you have to do is > | > | send this to 10 people... Well, lets face it, you just aren't a > | > | Mathematician. But I am. so trust me on this one.) > | > | > | > | How long would all that take? If each of us sends this email out to ten > | > | more people within one day of receipt, all 300 MILLION people could > | > | conceivably be contacted within the next 8 days!!! I'll bet you didn't > | > | think you and I had that much potential, did you! Acting together we can > | > | make a difference. If this makes sense to you, please pass this > > message on. > > | PLEASE HOLD OUT UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO THE $0.64 OR LESS RANGE > | > | AND KEEP THEM DOWN. THIS CAN REALLY WORK!!!!!!! > | > | > | > | > | > | Beata Pajewska > | > | Architectural Technologist > | > | SAIT > | > | Facilities Management > | > | Planning & Design > | > | Ph. (403)284-8340 > | > | e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > | > | ------------------------------------------------------- > | > | > | > | > | > | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > | > | > | -----Original Message----- > | *From:* Chiu, Kevin [WIC:2X36:EXCH] > | *Sent:* Thursday, May 13, 2004 10:21 AM > | *To:* Lee, Louis [WIC:2X36:EXCH]; Nguyen, Vu [CAR:C489:EXCH]; Edmund > | Quan [WIC:2X34:EXCH] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]); Hsiung, Chris > | [WIC:2X58:EXCH]; Jeff Jakab; Raymond Deblois; Boisselle, Patrick > | [CAR:OM3L:EXCH]; Bluethner, Martin [CAR:QW43:EXCH]; Man, Joseph > | [WIC:2X34:EXCH]; 'Jude Braganza'; Tran, Van [WIC:W788:EXCH]; Phan, Linda > | [WNW:W425:EXCH]; Khoo, Victor [WIC:2X56:EXCH]; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; > | Ho, Ming [WIC:2X34:EXCH] > | *Subject:* FW: A stand against high gas prices/ worth reading! > | > | I'm not a big fan of email chains, but darn it, the thought of gas > | prices being over $1/L is ridiculous. > | Simply put ... don't buy gas at Shell or Petro Canada ... it makes sense > | to me. > | Not a problem for me since I only buy from the grocery chains, Coop or > | Superstore. > | > | -----Original Message----- > | *From:* Lynn Gee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > | *Sent:* Thursday, May 13, 2004 9:56 AM > | *To:* Aaron Phui ([EMAIL PROTECTED]); Alvin Chim > | ([EMAIL PROTECTED]); Cam La-Chu ([EMAIL PROTECTED]); > | Catherine Chow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]); Daniel Leung > | ([EMAIL PROTECTED]); Dave Michaud ([EMAIL PROTECTED]); > | Donna Nielsen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]); Eddie Chan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]); > | Frank Yee ([EMAIL PROTECTED]); Huong Luc ([EMAIL PROTECTED]); Janet Hu > | ([EMAIL PROTECTED]); Jeannie Gee ([EMAIL PROTECTED]); Jennifer > | Ma ([EMAIL PROTECTED]); Joyce Low ([EMAIL PROTECTED]); Julie Gee > | ([EMAIL PROTECTED]); Karen Luk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]); Karen Yee > | ([EMAIL PROTECTED]); Karl Lee; Chiu, Kevin [WIC:2X36:EXCH]; Laurie > | Martens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]); Le Lisa P; Mike Boonstra > | ([EMAIL PROTECTED]); Nancy Mah ([EMAIL PROTECTED]); Nerland, Nanette; > | Nicole Sorge ([EMAIL PROTECTED]); Patricia Lau ([EMAIL PROTECTED]); > | Chan, Patrick [Business:EXTRNL:SANM]; Ron Ong ([EMAIL PROTECTED]); Rupie > | Gill ([EMAIL PROTECTED]); Ryan Wada ([EMAIL PROTECTED]); saj > | paleja; Sheldon Wong ([EMAIL PROTECTED]); Sidney Chan > | ([EMAIL PROTECTED]); Simon Ma ([EMAIL PROTECTED]); Stephany Law > | ([EMAIL PROTECTED]); Steven Van ([EMAIL PROTECTED]); Tony Fang > | ([EMAIL PROTECTED]); Tony Wong ([EMAIL PROTECTED]); Travis Ouchi > | ([EMAIL PROTECTED]); Wing Gee ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > | *Subject:* FW: A stand against high gas prices/ worth reading! > | > | I don't want to pay high gas prices! > | > | > | *Lynn Gee* > | Assistant, Food Services > | SAIT > | 1301 - 16 Avenue NW > | Calgary, Alberta T2M 0L4 > | Phone: 403- 284-8602 > | Fax: 403-284-7229 > | E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > | -----Original Message----- > | *From:* Sheila Donaldson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > | *Sent:* Thursday, May 13, 2004 9:16 AM > | *To:* Beata Pajewska; Personal Notices > | *Subject:* RE: A stand against high gas prices > | > | Don't forget Turbo is a subsidiary of Shell. > | > | -----Original Message----- > | *From:* Beata Pajewska [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > | *Sent:* Thursday, May 13, 2004 7:46 AM > | *To:* Personal Notices > | *Subject:* A stand against high gas prices > | > | A friend sent me the following. It sounds like a great idea! Please > | read until the end of the message. > | > | -----Original Message----- > | > | I hear we are going to hit close to a $1.42 a Litre by the summer. > | Want > | > | gasoline prices to come down? We need to take some intelligent, > | united > | > | action. Phillip Hollsworth, offered this good idea: > | > | This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the don't buy gas on a certain day > | > | campaign that was going around last April or May! The oil companies > | just > | > | laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't continue to hurt > | ourselves > | > | by refusing to buy gas. It was more of an inconvenience to us than > | it > | > | was a problem for them. BUT, whoever thought of this idea, has > > come up > > | with a plan that can really work. Please read it and join with us! > | > | > | > | By now you're probably thinking gasoline priced at about $.80 a > | litre > | > | is super cheap. Me too! It is currently .78 to .89 depending on > | what day > | > | it is,for regular unleaded gas in Montreal, Qc. We all know that > > we're > > | being screwed by the oil companies. Does everyone remember how they > | > | drove up the prices way past a dollar and got the gas prices to > | where > | > | they wanted them, claiming there was a shortage of oil. > | > | > | > | Well, there isn't any shortage now, and the oil is more abundant > | than it > | > | was 35 years ago when the price of a litre of gas was 29 cents!!! > | > | > | > | Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned > > us to > > | think that the cost of a litre of gas is CHEAP at $0.78-$0.85, we > > need > > | to take aggressive action to teach them that BUYERS control the > | > | marketplace....not sellers. With the price of gasoline going up more > | > | each day, we consumers need to take action. The only way we are > | going > | > | to see the price of gas come down is if we hit someone in the > | pocketbook > | > | by not purchasing their gas! And we can do that WITHOUT hurting > | > | ourselves. How? Since we all rely on our cars, we cant just stop > | buying > | > | gas. But we CAN have an impact on gas prices if we all act > > together to > > | force a price war. > | > | > | > | Heres the idea: For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY > > gasoline > > | from the two biggest companies (which now are one), PETRO CANADA, > | SHELL. > | > | If they are not selling any gas, they will be inclined to reduce > > their > > | prices. If they reduce their prices, the other companies will have > | to > | > | follow suit. But to have an impact, we need to reach literally > | millions > | > | of PETRO CANADA and SHELL buyers. Its really simple to do!! Now, > > don't > > | whimp out on me at this point...keep reading and I'll explain how > | simple > | > | it is to reach millions of people!! > | > | > | > | I am sending this note to at least thirty people. If each of you > | send it > | > | to at least ten more (30 x 10 = 300) ... and those 300 send it to at > | > | least ten more (300 x 10 = 3,000)...and so on, by the time the > | message > | > | reaches the sixth generation of people, we will have reached over > | THREE > | > | MILLION consumers! If those three million get excited and pass > > this on > > | to ten friends each, then 30 million people will have been > | contacted! If > | > | it goes one level further, you guessed it..... THREE HUNDRED MILLION > | > | PEOPLE!!! > | > | > | > | Again, all You have to do is send this to 10 people. That's all (If > | you > | > | don't understand how we can reach 300 million and all you have to > | do is > | > | send this to 10 people... Well, lets face it, you just aren't a > | > | Mathematician. But I am. so trust me on this one.) > | > | > | > | How long would all that take? If each of us sends this email out to > | ten > | > | more people within one day of receipt, all 300 MILLION people could > | > | conceivably be contacted within the next 8 days!!! I'll bet you > > didn't > > | think you and I had that much potential, did you! Acting together > | we can > | > | make a difference. If this makes sense to you, please pass this > | message on. > | > | > | > | PLEASE HOLD OUT UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO THE $0.64 OR LESS > | RANGE > | > | AND KEEP THEM DOWN. THIS CAN REALLY WORK!!!!!!! > | > | > | > | > | > | Beata Pajewska > | > | /Architectural Technologist/ > | > | *SAIT* > | > | Facilities Management > | > | Planning & Design > | > | Ph. 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