Thanks for the info Aaron. I was aware of prohibitive pricing, especially for large installations, of CommunigatePro but didnt look close enough at the "extra" costs for things like a MAPI support.
I previously thought I missed the Kolab presentation, so I will certainly try to make it next week. I might even have some time before then to try an install/configuration There are a couple more solutions I might look at as well. Thanks :) ------ original message ------ From: "Aaron J. Seigo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed Jun 30 20:36:30 MDT 2004 Subject: Re: [clug-talk] Email, Groupware Server Suggestions -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On June 30, 2004 04:08, Johnny Stork wrote: > I have looked at Kolab and had hoped to go to the recent presentation, but > was in Vancouver, so I dont have much knowledge of this solution. Started > browsing the Kolab/KGroupware sites and was immediately discouraged at the > quality? of documentation and that I had to download the source to get > install docs and other detailed info? there are people who are quite familiar with the process of installing and setting up Kolab around, including here in Calgary. Mandrake 10 comes with Kolab as RPMs, even. Kolab is being used by ISPs and government agencies in South Africa and Europe. there's even a private company using it for email services locally. so while i understand your initial take on it given the Kolab _developer_ websites, it isn't reflective of the general state of KOlab. > Yes I am Linux/Unix/Technology > literate but I dont want to spend all weekend trying to work my way through > a solution. As an example, trying out CommunigatePro took 5 minutes, > download rpm, rpm -ivh CGatepro.rpm, service sendmail stop, service > cgatepro start and go to http://server:8100 to setup accounts. Now thats > the way I like to deploy and test things. And documentaion is available on > site and is very extensive. look at the licensing costs: 50 accounts, 5 mailing lists US$499.00 200 accounts, 15 mailing lists US$999.00 etc... until Unlimited accounts, unlimited lists US$59,999.00 that's just for one server. cluster pricing is astronomical. the anti-virus and anti-spam pricing is even greater! ick. support contracts are additional, too boot. their "groupware" solution (which really isn't quite. shared folders?) is web-only unless you shell out yet more for their MAPI plugin. most people want to use a "real" groupware client, such as Outlook (*groan*) or Kontact. so expect to pay that as well. furthermore, while there are standards-based PLUGINS for things such as LDAP, CommunigatePro does not use those open standards natively. Kolab does, and it provides a nice web front end for it all. Kolab, while not perfect, is well supported, actively developed, 100% Free Software and far, far cheaper even with per-seat support factored in. there is also a new major upgrade for Kolab coming in September. if you can make it to the next CLUG meeting to check out the Kolab presentation, that would be great. Andy and I will be more than happy to show you what Kolab can and cannot do, and even help you with prospective pricing guidelines for installation, support, etc... should any of that be needed. - -- Aaron J. Seigo GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0C6F 7C47 B1EA EE75 D6B7 2EB1 A7F1 DB43 while (!horse()); cart(); -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2-rc1-SuSE (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA43iv1rcusafx20MRAqQQAKCpwlMQKpTpuT2epheKoMydpE1TdgCeIq8D OP5blYjZvXiWwU3fzv3yxXg= =A8ot -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ clug-talk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca _______________________________________________ clug-talk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca
