Hi Rob.
You sure have asked a mouthful. So let's start the answering:
In the OpenSource world information is abundant and plentiful, likely the
most difficult part will be to get the part that you need. The nube site, is
a collection, without the explicit attempt to present or group the available
information. It would take hours to find what you are actually looking for,
but if you pay attention to the segregating menu on the left, and how the
subjects and websites are grouped and listed. I will try not to argue the
point of presentation here, it is a collection, you have to wade your way
across it to get to your goal.
Programming, well the most important element after the language is the
compiler, and i really dont want to get into a chicken/egg kind of argument,
In the subject of programming you should, and did find the compiler (gcc) in
this case, i am sure you also found php, Python, Perl and a bunch of other
languages some with compilers, some with interpreters, I am also sure, you
also found a bunch of links about programming as a subject. Having gcc on a
linux system is the norm, visiting the gcc website, well look at it a
reference point, to see the homepage of gcc, yes you dont need it, you
allready have one :-). If your installation has no gcc on it, then yes, you
would be limited to installing binary packages. And your update-agent (let's
call it that way to preserve the generic nature of the posting.) is set up
properly to enable you to install new packages that suite your distro, and
upgrade the existing once and keep them up-to-date.
Most linux distros have a distinct suffix to their binary packages, if you
just want to grab-and-install. Naturally you should have gcc and utils and
just get the source and compile. It is not difficult. Usually there are
descriptions around the binary package, and if dependencies are needed, the
installer will tell you about it, needless to say, the package manager that
comes with your distro will take care of that too...
Yes i would point them to the programming section at Nexus, and i am sure
they will have proper help and guidance from the nexus staff.
Cheers
Szemir
On August 2, 2004 23:01, Rob S wrote:
> Well, i find the information there to be overwhelming and not helpful.
> It might be in the style of the webpages, or in what information is
> presented. Some of the links are not useful, for instance: Why point a
> newbie, who is interested in programming, to the gcc website when they
> probably already have gcc on their system. If they dont have gcc on
> their system, then they probably cant compile from source anyway. What
> is the guarantee that there are binaries that work on their system?
> Will the newbie know to go to a mirror that is hosting their verison of
> linux? Will they know what files to download and how to install them?
> Why not point them to the programming section inside of nexus computer
> books instead?
>
> The basic command line examples were hidden half way down the list on
> the index frame. I just found it now. Why is this so hard to find?
>
> Some of the pages are out of date, some of those started off being very,
> very terse.
>
> I find it much easier to go elsewhere for howto's and documentation than
> the nube site.
>
> -Rob.
>
> bogi wrote:
> >Hi Rob.
> >there is nube.clug.ca
> >comes very close to this idea :-)
> >Cheers
> >Szemir
> >
> >On July 31, 2004 23:52, Rob S wrote:
> >>s. keeling wrote:
> >>>Incoming from Rob S:
> >>>>Just wondering, could we put a list of webpages together for those
> >>>>interested in having linux installed?
> >>>
> >>>Uhhh ...
> >>
> >>I was thinking more of a sheet of paper with a sample list of url's on
> >>it, folded to look more attractive.
> >>More to get people started than to be comprehensive.
> >>
> >>>>I wonder if writing the url for the clug webpage down on the cds handed
> >>>>out would be seen as blatant advertising?
> >>>
> >>>Heck no. That's where they go for support. It's not like CLUG's
> >>>selling support contracts or demanding licencing fees or royalties.
> >>
> >>Cool.
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