To be honest, we hadn't considered the UofC purely because of time. I know we have some members that are students at the UofC and members that are alumni. This is certainly not meant to alienate them or the University. In a perfect world we would have approached all three at the same time and hopefully had the luxury of time to decide where we wanted to go based on the best interests of the group.
As I mentioned we have nothing set in stone for September so we needed to meet and decide on this. We could feasibly meet at one place and then another if we were given equal opportunity at each location but this would serve the group as far as consistency's sake. The largest factor that prohibits the growth of a group like this is not having a stable consistent meeting place. You tend to lose too many people as you move around. We'll get this all sorted out. I would hope that once we do get this settled that we don't have to revisit it for a good length of time. Something we have also considered is that what we do sets the stage for future Executives and members alike. It's nice to have things in order for easy transference of a governing body, unfortunately it rarely happens in practice. I'd like to think we are setting an example. This was not meant to alarm anyone, I'm personally not planning on going anywhere and as long as you all are happy with the way we are doing things, we'll keep doing them. Of course, I understand Jesse is going to give me run for my money eventually. :) Jarrod ----- Original Message ----- From: Jason Louie Sent: 8/16/2004 3:10:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [clug-talk] Meeting Place > My only concern with the UofC is that the booking would probably have > to go through the Student Union. Based on past experiences they were > pretty expensive to rent / book rooms for events for non SU > activities. I know this because I ran a club while I was a student > there and though the rooms were free to SU clubs, SU club activities > were pretty expensive. > > Maybe we can get a SU club to host our meetings. ;} > > > On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 14:45:51 -0600, Brad Camroux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 16, 2004 at 09:15:25AM -0600, Jarrod Major wrote: > > > > First, I appreciate being "kept in the loop" - this shows some good > > > > leadership... (er, how many brownie points for that one?) > > > > > > To be honest that was Kari keeping us on the straight-and-narrow. You are > > > welcome. > > > > Guess it doesn't really matter *who* earned the brownie points -- more that we > > were kept in > > the loop is all that matters. > > > > > > Second, I think SAIT should have an opportunity to counter offer, but if they > > > > don't respond in a timely manner they will have effectively said we aren't > > > > worthy of a counter offer / decision. Do they know we have an opportunity to > > > > meet elsewhere? Do they view the group as a good PR type thing, or a > > > > necessary evil to keep students/instructors happy and/or utilize otherwise > > > > dead space? Basically, do they feel they get something in return? If not, > > > > then I don't think we'll ever have a stable situation with them. > > > > > > SAIT have been given the opportunity to counter-offer, no word yet. No they are > > > not aware of the DeVry offer. Officially we have been flying under the radar. > > > The officials at SAIT aren't even aware that we have been meeting there. I know > > > we have had a number of SAIT students and a few instructors show up to meetings > > > I hope that they will stay with us if we move. Stability is certainly an issue > > > with SAIT as it stands now. > > > > As another option, has anyone considered approaching the University of Calgary on > > this issue? > > Granted, the campus is much larger than SAIT or DeVry, but if the meetings were > > held in > > the Math Science, Earth Science, or ICT Buildings, navigation shouldn't be too > > difficult. > > (ICT rooms would have the advantage of having an overhead data projector, though > > more and more > > rooms are being equipped with them, and if necessary Com/Media can bring one in.) > > > > > > Third, Is DeVry talking about a permanent arrangement? Will we need to go > > > > through this again in a few months or a year? What happens if we out-grow > > > > the room they are offering? We've been pushing 70 or so people at some of > > > > the meetings lately - I don't think it'd be a big push to grow over 100 > > > > people. Do they have other rooms available? > > > > > > DeVry have left this open ended as far as we are concerned. We can have the > > > space for as long as we want it. AFAIK we have at least a year of guaranteed > > > space, no penalty to leave at any time. The only thing they have asked for > > > (actually we offered) is the advertising on our website under sponsors and > > > plugging them at meetings. This is all stuff I do as a a matter of course > > > anyway, no hardship here. The room we have tentatively been offered could have > > > extra chairs brought in to grow over 100 but we may still have further options... > > > > Yes, it is very nice to have a stable meeting place. The biggest advantages of > > the SAIT or > > UofC locations would be that the train line goes right through or directly > > adjacent to the > > campus. The biggest disadvantage of the University option would be parking, as I > > believe it > > is slightly more expensive than at SAIT, but I'm not sure because I don't drive on > > a regular > > basis (I'm a slave to Calgary Transit). > > > > > > As for location, DeVry or SAIT are both easy to get too. (There are a number > > > > of buses that run from the Franklin or Marlborough c-train stations that > > > > service a good chuck of the NE/SE areas around there. Both stations are > > > > within walking distance of DeVry). > > > > > > I think this is well covered. > > > > > > > I don't envy the choice the executive has to make, but trust they will make > > > > the choice that is best for the group. > > > > > > It is a huge issue to try and keep our meeting place fairly stable. We have not > > > paid anyone for the use of facilities thus far and that is a huge thing. How > > > many organizations can say that they don't pay for their meeting place? Not many > > > I'd wager. We are still not big enough to be able to cover those kind of costs. > > > I think it is encouraging that we have grown big enough (or interesting or > > > what-have-you) to catch the eye of places like DeVry. They are wooing us not the > > > other way around. > > > > > > > Thanks for keeping us informed Jarrod. > > > > > > Thank the Executive as a whole, I'm only part of the team. It's not really fair > > > for the 'front-man' to always get the kudos, the rest of the band are just as > > > important. > > > > Indeed. Thanks to everyone on the Executive for their efforts. > > > > -- > > +--------------------------+-------------------------------+ > > |Brad Camroux | === http://www.debian.org === | > > |Student | ============================= | > > |Geophysics & Applied Math | Proud admin and user of Debian| > > |University of Calgary | since 2003... because Red Hat | > > |Calgary, AB, Canada | just didn't cut it | > > +--------------------------+-------------------------------+ > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > clug-talk mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca > > > > _______________________________________________ > clug-talk mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca > _______________________________________________ clug-talk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca
