Hi Kin,

Here are a few tidbits I have found. BTW, nobody mentioned Cat6 which if
Gigabit capable (as is Cat5e � but maxed out)


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Personally; unless you are required to have cabling that will last more than
7 years or so, I'd go Cat5e.

As others have mentioned, Cat6 is basically better quality and will
hopefully support future enhancements better than Cat5e. However, at this
point in time, there is no practical difference; both support 1000Base-T
(Gigabit) up to 100M max (using all four pairs remember).

Yes, you should definitely use PoE. Remember, not using PoE can also be
costly - you'll need lots more power sockets at desks. More importantly, how
would you provide battery backup in times of power failure for all those
sockets? (people still expect phones to work during power failures and this
is probably more critical in a school.) Much easier to put a UPS in the
wiring closet...

If you have recent edge switches then add mid-span power units to them.
Otherwise, buy new PoE switches that support the 802.3af standard. Check
that your IP handsets will be compatible. Check the power budget on each
switch as some handsets consume more power than others and most switches do
not have PSUs capable of handling the highest power devices on all ports.

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If you are looking for a long term solution, install everything CAT-6.
If you plan to reconfigure work areas frequently, and need to save a few
bucks, install everything CAT-5e.
If you want a long term cabling solution, but still need to save a few
bucks, mix it up a bit. You could install CAT-6 cabling and CAT-5e
components (outlets, patch panels, patch cords, etc) You will save money now
by installing cheaper components which can be replaced in the future when
the need arises. When the time does come to upgrade to CAT-6 it will be much
more cost effective (from a labor standpoint)to replace jacks and patch
panels and test than it would be to remove all of the old cabling, install
all new cabling, jack, terminate and test. Besides, if you check around and
chose your cable wisely, you may find that CAT-6 cable is not much more
expensive than CAT-5e

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Cat5e and Cat6 Comparison
Category 6 Cabling System and Application


Why do I need all the bandwidth of category 6? As far as I know, there is no
application today that requires 200 MHz of bandwidth.

Bandwidth precedes data rates just as highways come before traffic. Doubling
the bandwidth is like adding twice the number of lanes on a highway. The
trends of the past and the predictions for the future indicate that data
rates have been doubling every 18 months. Current applications running at 1
Gb/s are really pushing the limits of category 5e cabling. As streaming
media applications such as video and multi-media become commonplace, the
demands for faster data rates will increase and spawn new applications that
will benefit from the higher bandwidth offered by category 6. This is
exactly what happened in the early 90�s when the higher bandwidth of
category 5 cabling compared to category 3 caused most LAN applications to
choose the better media to allow simpler, cost effective, higher speed LAN
applications, such as 100BASE-TX. Note: Bandwidth is defined as the highest
frequency up to which positive power sum ACR (Attenuation to Crosstalk
Ratio) is greater than zero.

What is the general difference between category 5e and category 6?

The general difference between category 5e and category 6 is in the
transmission performance, and extension of the available bandwidth from 100
MHz for category 5e to 200 MHz for category 6. This includes better
insertion loss, near end crosstalk (NEXT), return loss, and equal level far
end crosstalk (ELFEXT). These improvements provide a higher signal-to-noise
ratio, allowing higher reliability for current applications and higher data
rates for future applications.

Will category 6 supersede category 5e?

Yes, analyst predictions and independent polls indicate that 80 to 90
percent of all new installations will be cabled with category 6. The fact
that category 6 link and channel requirements are backward compatible to
category 5e makes it very easy for customers to choose category 6 and
supersede category 5e in their networks. Applications that worked over
category 5e will work over category 6.

What does category 6 do for my current network vs. category 5e?

Because of its improved transmission performance and superior immunity from
external noise, systems operating over category 6 cabling will have fewer
errors vs. category 5e for current applications. This means fewer
re-transmissions of lost or corrupted data packets under certain conditions,
which translates into higher reliability for category 6 networks compared to
category 5e networks.

When should I recommend or install category 6 vs. category 5e?

>From a future proofing perspective, it is always better to install the best
cabling available. This is because it is so difficult to replace cabling
inside walls, in ducts under floors and other difficult places to access.
The rationale is that cabling will last at least 10 years and will support
at least four to five generations of equipment during that time. If future
equipment running at much higher data rates requires better cabling, it will
be very expensive to pull out category 5e cabling at a later time to install
category 6 cabling. So why not do it for a premium of about 20 percent over
category 5e on an installed basis?

What is the shortest link that the standard will allow?

There is no short length limit. The standard is intended to work for all
lengths up to 100 meters. There is a guideline in ANSI/TIA/EIA-568-B.1 that
says the consolidation point should be located at least 15 meters away from
the telecommunications room to reduce the effect of connectors in close
proximity. This recommendation is based upon worst-case performance
calculations for short links with four mated connections in the channel.

What is a �tuned� system between cable and hardware? Is this really needed
if product meets the standard?

The word �tuned� has been used by several manufacturers to describe products
that deliver headroom to the category 6 standard. This is outside the scope
of the category 6 standard. The component requirements of the standard have
been carefully designed and analyzed to assure channel compliance and
electrical/ mechanical interoperability.

What is impedance matching between cable and hardware? Is this really needed
if product meets the standard?

The standard has no impedance matching requirements. These are addressed by
having return loss requirements for cables, connectors, and patch cords.

Is there a use for category 6 in the residential market?

Yes, category 6 will be very effective in the residential market to support
higher Internet access speeds while facilitating the more stringent Class B
EMC requirements (see also the entire FCC Rules and Regulations, Title 47,
Part 15). The better balance of category 6 will make it easier to meet the
residential EMC requirements compared to category 5e cabling. Also, the
growth of streaming media applications to the home will increase the need
for higher data rates which are supported more easily and efficiently by
category 6 cabling.

Why wouldn�t I skip category 6 and go straight to optical fiber?

You can certainly do that but will find that a fiber system is still very
expensive. Ultimately, economics drive customer decisions, and today optical
fiber together with optical transceivers is about twice as expensive as an
equivalent system built using category 6 and associated copper electronics.
Installation of copper cabling is more craft-friendly and can be
accomplished with simple tools and techniques. Additionally, copper cabling
supports the emerging Data Terminal Equipment (DTE) power standard under
development by IEEE (802.3af).

What is meant by the term "Electrically Balanced"?

A simple open wire circuit consisting of two wires is considered to be a
uniform, balanced transmission line. A uniform transmission line is one
which has substantially identical electrical properties throughout its
length, while a balanced transmission line is one whose two conductors are
electrically alike and symmetrical with respect to ground and other nearby
conductors.* "Electrically balanced" relates to the physical geometry and
the dielectric properties of a twisted pair of conductors. If two insulated
conductors are physically identical to one another in diameter,
concentricity, dielectric material and are uniformly twisted with equal
length of conductor, then the pair is electrically balanced with respect to
its surroundings. The degree of electrical balance depends on the design and
manufacturing process. Category 6 cable requires a greater degree of
precision in the manufacturing process. Likewise, a category 6 connector
requires a more balanced circuit design. For balanced transmission, an equal
voltage of opposite polarity is applied on each conductor of a pair. The
electromagnetic fields created by one conductor cancel out the
electromagnetic fields created by its "balanced" companion conductor,
leading to very little radiation from the balanced twisted pair transmission
line. The same concept applies to external noise that is induced on each
conductor of a twisted pair. A noise signal from an external source, such as
radiation from a radio transmitter antenna generates an equal voltage of the
same polarity, or "common mode voltage," on each conductor of a pair. The
difference in voltage between conductors of a pair from this radiated
signal, the "differential voltage," is effectively zero. Since the desired
signal on the pair is the differential signal, the interference does not
affect balanced transmission. The degree of electrical balance is determined
by measuring the "differential voltage" and comparing it to the "common mode
voltage" expressed in decibels (dB). This measurement is called Longitudinal
Conversion Loss "LCL" in the Category 6 standard. * The ABC�s of the
telephone Vol. 7
Category 6 Cable Questions
What is the difference between enhanced category 5e cable rated for 400 MHz
and category 6 cable rated for 250 MHz?

Category 5e requirements are specified up to 100 MHz. Cables can be tested
up to any frequency that is supported by the test equipment, but such
measurements are meaningless without the context of applications and cabling
standards. The category 6 standard sets minimum requirements up to 250 MHz
for cables, connecting hardware, patch cords, channels and permanent links,
and therefore guarantees reasonable performance that can be utilized by
applications.

Why did all category 6 cable used to have a spline, and now is offered
without one?

Some category 6 cable designs have a spline to increase the separation
between pairs and also to maintain the pair geometry. This additional
separation improves NEXT performance and allows category 6 compliance to be
achieved. With advances in technology, manufacturers have found other ways
of meeting category 6 requirements. The bottom line is the internal
construction of the cable does not matter, so long as it meets all the
transmission and physical requirements of category 6. The standard does not
dictate any particular method of cable construction.

Is there a limitation on the size of bundles one can have with category 6?
Can you have 200-300 and still pass category 6?

There is no limit imposed by the standards on the maximum number of category
6 cables in a bundle. This is a matter for the market and the industry to
determine based on practical considerations. It should be pointed out that
after six or eight cables, the performance in any cable will not change
significantly since the cables will be too far away to add any additional
external (or alien) NEXT.
Category 6 Patch Cord Questions
Will contractors be able to make their own patch cords?

Category 6 patch cords are precision products, just like the cables and the
connectors. They are best manufactured and tested in a controlled
environment to ensure consistent, reliable performance. This will ensure
interoperability and backward compatibility. All this supports patch cords
as a factory-assembled product rather than a field-assembled product.

Do you have to use the manufacturer�s patch cords to get category 6
performance?

The category 6 standard has specifications for patch cords and connectors
that are intended to assure interoperable category 6 performance. If
manufacturers can demonstrate that each component meets the requirements in
the standard, minimum category 6 performance will be achieved. However,
manufacturers may also design their products to perform better than the
minimum category 6 requirements, and in these cases compatible patch cords
and connectors may lead to performance above the minimum category 6
requirements.

Category 6 Testing Questions Why do field tester manufacturers offer many
different link adapters if everyone meets the standard?

This was an interim solution while the standard was still being developed
and the interoperability requirements were not yet established. It is likely
that soon one or more adapters will work for testing of cabling from all
vendors.

Would you get passing test results if you used a link adapter not
recommended by a manufacturer?

You should expect to get passing results if both the link adapter interface
and the mating jack that is part of the link are both compliant to category
6 requirements.
Category 6 Connecting Hardware Questions
Are the connectors for category 5e and category 6 different? Why are they
more expensive?

Although category 6 and category 5e connectors may look alike, category 6
connectors have much better transmission performance. For example, at 100
MHz, NEXT of a category 5e connector is 43 decibels (dB), while NEXT of a
category 6 connector is 54 dB. This means that a cat6 connector couples
about 1/12 of the power that a cat5e connector couples from one pair to
another pair. Conversely, one can say that a category 6 connector is 12
times less �noisy� compared to a category 5e connector. This vast
improvement in performance was achieved with new technology, new processes,
better materials and significant R&D resources, leading to higher costs for
manufacturers.

What will happen if I mix and match different manufacturers' hardware
together? 

If the components are category 6 compliant, then you will be assured of
category 6 performance.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Kin C Wong
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 8:06 AM
To: CLUG General
Subject: RE: [clug-talk] voice & data on cat5

Thanks, Dave� - we are currently using cat5 for both voice and data on
separate lines.� (Less cable to stock and I think cat5 is superior anyways.)

At 11:12 PM 6/9/2005 -0600, you wrote:

Hi Kin,

I've run both phone and internet over Cat5 and Cat5e with no problems at
all. Just pulled the "spare" wires and added an extra jack on the wall
plate.

HTH

Dave Watkins



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Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 3:26 PM
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Subject: [clug-talk] voice & data on cat5

Does anyone what to share their experience running voice and ethernet on 
the same cat5?� Any pros and cons?

The one thing I can think of for the con side is you give up a certain 
amount of redundancy.


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