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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> yes, we have other nfs mounts that recovered from the outage with no issues,  
> They are still running.
> 
> never tried -o remount.
> 
> Can't test our linux box as the mount -l fixed the issue.
> checked the AIX mount man page, I don't see it as a option.  I'll give it a 
> try.
> 
> Out of curiosity, what did you replace your nfs with?
> 

My largest client went from NT4 and a collection of NT/2k and linux
boxes to 2 Windows2003 and a single linux box (for mail and proxy).  All
the file serving was consolidated onto the windows boxes, so nfs was not
needed.

Also, samba with cifs and windows 2003 did not play nice (if there was a
 linux box mounting a share when the 2k3 box rebooted, then the 2k3 box
would hang on boot, so we ended up with a mostly windows environment...
score a point for severe lack of interoperability causing an increase in
sales for Redmond).  The cost of exchange and crippled features of SBE
are why there is still linux onsite (I could go on for days about the
problems I have had with SBE).  This is actually a long story.

I replaced nfs with sfs (http://www.fs.net) at one client site.  Nearly
every other client of mine has samba as their workstations are windows.

At home I ditched nfs for cifs (samba) due to perfomance issues accross
my wlan.

Cheers

> thanks
> sig
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Behalf Of Gustin Johnson
> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 11:02 AM
> To: CLUG General
> Subject: Re: [clug-talk] forcing umount on nfs filesystem [solved]
> 
> 
> Is there any userspace nfs programs still running?  I replaced our last
> nfs share last year, so this is all sorta fuzzy
> 
> What about remounting the share ("-o remount")?
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>>>Turns out AIX does not have the same umount -l option.
>>>
>>>lsof and fuser do not return anything useful.
>>>sudo lsof /unix_data
>>>lsof: WARNING: can't stat() unknown file system /unix_data
>>>      Output information may be incomplete.
>>>      assuming "dev=0x80000027" from mount table
>>>
>>>
>>>There's a small win for linux.
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>Behalf Of Magnuson, Sig
>>>Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 9:40 AM
>>>To: [email protected]
>>>Subject: Re: [clug-talk] forcing umount on nfs filesystem [solved]
>>>
>>>
>>>It figures, I have been playing with this on and off for a couple of days 
>>>now.  Decide to engage the group and then discover the following works on 
>>>linux clients.  Gonna try AIX now.
>>>
>>>sudo umount -lf /unix_data
>>>
>>>       -l     Lazy unmount. Detach the filesystem from the filesystem  
>>> hierar-
>>>              chy now, and cleanup all references to the filesystem as soon 
>>> as
>>>              it is not busy anymore.  (Requires kernel 2.4.11 or later.)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>Behalf Of Magnuson, Sig
>>>Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 9:31 AM
>>>To: [email protected]
>>>Subject: [clug-talk] forcing umount on nfs filesystem
>>>
>>>
>>>we have a linux nfs server serving linux and AIX clients.
>>>
>>>When our linux nfs server recently went down we were left with stale NFS 
>>>file handles on some of the hosts.  We have been unable to umount/remove the 
>>>stale mount.  rebooting is not a option at this time.  
>>>
>>>Any suggestions on how to remove this stale mount.
>>>
>>>IE:
>>>
>>>cat /etc/redhat-release
>>>Red Hat Enterprise Linux AS release 3 (Taroon Update 4)
>>>
>>>sudo umount /unix_data
>>>umount: /unix_data: device is busy
>>>
>>>sudo umount -f /unix_data
>>>umount2: Device or resource busy
>>>umount: /unix_data: device is busy
>>>
>>>sudo umount -vf /unix_data
>>>umount2: Device or resource busy
>>>umount: /unix_data: device is busy
>>>
>>>df -h
>>>Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
>>>...
>>>...
>>>calnfs01.corporate.net:/nfs_unix_data
>>>                         -     -     -   -  /unix_data
>>>
>>>sudo lsof /unix_data
>>>lsof: WARNING: can't stat() nfs file system /unix_data
>>>      Output information may be incomplete.
>>>lsof: status error on /unix_data: Stale NFS file handle
>>>lsof 4.63
>>> latest revision: ftp://vic.cc.purdue.edu/pub/tools/unix/lsof/
>>> latest FAQ: ftp://vic.cc.purdue.edu/pub/tools/unix/lsof/FAQ
>>> latest man page: ftp://vic.cc.purdue.edu/pub/tools/unix/lsof/lsof_man
>>> usage: [-?abhlnNoOPRstUvV] [-c c] [+|-d s] [+D D] [+|-f]
>>> [-F [f]] [-g [s]] [-i [i]] [+|-L [l]] [+|-M] [-o [o]] [-p s]
>>> [+|-r [t]] [-S [t]] [-T [t]] [-u s] [+|-w] [--] [names]
>>>Use the ``-h'' option to get more help information.
>>>
>>>sudo fuser /unix_data
>>>/unix_data: Stale NFS file handle
>>>
>>>sudo fuser -k /unix_data
>>>/unix_data: Stale NFS file handle
>>>
>>>attempts to remount over top of the stale mount result in dual entries
>>>sudo mount /unix_data
>>>df -h
>>>Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
>>>...
>>>...
>>>calnfs01.corporate.net:/nfs_unix_data
>>>                      100G   74M  100G   1% /unix_data
>>>calnfs01.corporate.net:/nfs_unix_data
>>>                      100G   74M  100G   1% /unix_data
>>>
>>>sudo umount -f /unix_data
>>>df -k
>>>Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
>>>...
>>>...
>>>calnfs01.corporate.net:/nfs_unix_data
>>>                             -         -         -   -  /unix_data
>>>
>>>sudo umount -f /unix_data
>>>umount2: Device or resource busy
>>>umount: /unix_data: device is busy
>>>
>>>
>>>Anyone tried this suggestion?
>>>http://lists.debian.org/debian-isp/2003/04/msg00234.html
>>>
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