Notwithstanding your point of view and this is not meant to be criticism 
but rather just informative.  I was worked with lots of people around 
the world and the one thing that is prevalent in the North Western 
hemisphere (less so in Canada) is that:

innovation - it was made here, it was my idea or it really was someone 
else's idea but with my tweak, so it's my idea - we are so driven to be 
innovative

communication - there is too much but not enough of the right stuff - 
the one thing I see in corporations is that there is too much 
communication at the same time there is not enough communication in the 
same group

self versus community - this varies and can change wildly within one's 
lifetime -- we start wanting to create our own identity, make our own 
money (in America, you can be anything you want), getting ahead but at 
some time we focus on more community exploits (Howard Hughes gave back 
to the community in the end of his life - Warren Buffet is planning to 
do something similar with his fortune).

My response involves the first point -- in order to make things work 
better at CLUG, we need to keep in mind that success is based on 10% 
inspiration and 90% perspiration.  We need to get behind an idea if we 
want our own ideas to move forward.  It is not a matter of paying your 
dues but just human nature and the community in action.  Politicians 
need to do it and so do we.  I think the only people that we accept 
unilaterally and unconditionally are likely our own children.

Tek Budda wrote:

>Something that was said at recent meetings started me thinking about 
>things and has to some point caused me some inner conflict and I guess 
>has stirred my pot a bit.  That is the idea of the current executive 
>wanting more people to step up to the plate and get more involved.
>
>This is an admirable and very reasonable desire and request to make to 
>the membership of any group.  And depending on your level of 
>involvement, may help plant ideas in your head.  Like many things, they 
>start as an idea, that depending on the the environment they are planted 
>in, will either wither and die or will grow strong and healthy.  Heck, 
>it is what CLUG itself is built on.  And so, with that in mind, my 
>challenge to the executive is this....
>
>What are you doing to create the fertile soil necessary to not only 
>plant these ideas, but to help them grow?
>
>Just a thought, but perhaps if that environment doesn't exist or if it 
>does, can't be seen, that may contribute to the lack of involvement on 
>both sides.  I myself, have felt that some ideas I have proposed (at 
>various times) have either been outright dismissed or just left to die. 
>  Yes, I could have done my part and brought the idea to life, but 
>sometimes, that is all I may have is an idea and I am not sure where to 
>go.  And sometimes, if I don't see an opportunity to have that idea grow 
>then I figure why should I bother to waste my time.  To put it another 
>way...I may want to grow a crop but may not know how the see it through 
>from planting to harvest...or...why should I plant the seed if no one 
>else is willing to help with the cultivation.
>
>I am sure this post will cause some interesting comments.
>
>Cameron
>  
>


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