Whoops, this missed the list. Also, Mitchell, this would not have been OT on the CLUG-PROGSIG list :-)
--Original Message Follows-- From: Mark Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sep 27, 2006 10:07 PM Subject: Re: [clug-talk] OT: C++ To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 9/27/06, Andrew J. Kopciuch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 27 September 2006 14:19, Mark Carlson wrote: > > On 9/27/06, Andrew J. Kopciuch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Wednesday 27 September 2006 12:06, Nick Wiltshire wrote: > > > > Are you familiar with the concepts of classes, objects, scope? If not, > > > > those are good things to know heading in. > > > > > > I seriously doubt an introduction to C++ programming is going to get into > > > classes, objects or other such topics (inheritance, polymorphism, STL). > > > > > > The first while will be basic syntax, then data types, streams, control > > > structures (conditionals, loops etc), functions, maybe some simple > > > programs. > > > > > > I'll bet a big chunk of time will be spent on learning about pointers. > > > > > > I would bet it's more like an introduction to C using a C++ compiler. > > > > An intro to C++ should indeed cover classes, objects, and such. If it > > didn't it would be a into tro C, not C++ ;-) > > > > Actually ... no. > > That would be an introduction to Object Oriented Programming. Those topics > are not specific to C++. Material to that is included in some C++ classes, > but not at a very basic level, and especially not in an introduction class > for beginner programmers ... at a high school. > > > Most "intro to C++" books assume C knowledge and build on that, so I > > second Adam's suggestion of learning C first. > > > > So I guess Junior high is where you cut your teeth on C ... and make the jump > to advance C++ programming the year after? ;-) > > I do not think Mitchell was talking of a professional training course, nor a > post secondary level class. It is going to be an introduction > to "programming" using C++. They'll learn how to loop through arrays, and > code a bubble sort, and make little programs asking questions and gathering > input, reading and writing to files ... the basics. > > The environment being used is apparently C++ ... but it really wouldn't matter > if it was java, eiffel, pascal or any other language ... you are going to > learn the same ideas that apply to any language. OO programming is probably > not in the plans for a 10th grade class. Ok, maybe I just don't understand what would constitue C++ if it didn't include OO. I really don't know any non-OO aspects of C++ other than: - files are suffixed with .C, .H or .cpp, .hpp - namespaces maybe? At any rate, I'm no C++ expert, but I heartily enjoy C, and just so I'm not threadjacking too badly... ... Mitchell: you can find some great C resources at http://www.iso-9899.info That is the home of the freenode IRC channel ##c. ##c++ on freenode is probably not a good place for c++ noobs, but they might have a good collection of c++ info available. -Mark _______________________________________________ clug-talk mailing list [email protected] http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) **Please remove these lines when replying
