I can see value in both sides of the discussion. Dvorak is definitely a little on the grumpy side. One is hard pressed to find a product he will get behind.
I don't think that Vista is another WinME. I do think it's much like XP was in the early days. While Vista has so far been proven to be much more secure than XP was initially, it is plagued with issues surrounding resource usage, and driver availability/maturity. This is something XP suffered for initially. I like Vista to look at it. I dislike using it from my initial experiences with it. I blame that on a lack of double the RAM that made XP run reasonably and lack of drivers that always work. For businesses its a no brainer - its 'not yet suitable'. Is Vista the next killer-app, or is it what Microsoft had hoped/hyped? Not a chance. Death Watch? not likely either. M$ has a huge market share that will help them weather this and Vista, will.... eventually be widely adopted. Will Microsoft loose some market share over it? possibly, and I whole-heartedly agree that it's a great opportunity for Linux as a whole to gain some market. I really think that when the market begins to realize real value from a cloud-based computing model, Linux can really begin to shine for the 'average' user. I think what is happening with google (openly available api's and a cell phone based google OS) is making Microsoft far more uneasy than Vista being a little slow out of the gate, and perhaps looking the other way for now? On Wed, 2007-11-14 at 23:57 -0700, Dave Watkins wrote: > Hi All, > > When Vista was released I was hard pressed to find a system that had XP on > it. Yesterday I looked again and there were plenty on the shopping list. > Another interesting point is that LG is giving resellers a kit that allows > you to "downgrade" to XP if you buy a system with Vista Business on it. My > experiences with Vista have been less than good and I've refused to allow it > on one client's network at all. > > YMMV, > > Dave > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of bogi > Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 8:31 PM > To: CLUG General > Subject: Re: [clug-talk] The Vista Death Watch > > The numbers say that Vista did not stick very well. And by comparison, a > year > after the XP release you would be hard pressed to find anyone selling new pc > > with 98 of me for that matter, so he does highlight a fact that Vista is not > > selling well, the other fact is the continuing demand for XP, and the main > point of the article that XP lifespan has been extended for another year, > yes > it would bring back memories of 98 finally getting the last nail in the > coffin last year. He is also , i think is close to the point when > complaining > about the fragmentation of the Vista product line and a stiff competition > specially regarding 3d desktop ... > And no i am not expecting him to go Linux, but with some well played > tactics, > Linux could carve a crucial niche for itself regarding the desktop sphere. > > On a side note, He mentioned all the promissed features to be available in > Vista, that never really made it past the promise stage. A stark reminder of > > an old word usually associated with our beloved Microsoft: Vaporware. > > Cheers > Szemir > > > On November 14, 2007 16:07, Gustin Johnson wrote: > > Ah John Dvorak. He is always opinionated, colourful, and usually > > entertaining. He is kinda of like Fox news that way, sometimes fun to > > watch but not a very good representation of reality. > > > > bogi wrote: > > > http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2704,2209837,00.asp > > > > > > Cheers > > > Szemir > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > clug-talk mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca > > > Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) > > > **Please remove these lines when replying > > > > _______________________________________________ > > clug-talk mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca > > Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) > > **Please remove these lines when replying > > _______________________________________________ > clug-talk mailing list > [email protected] > http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca > Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) > **Please remove these lines when replying > > > _______________________________________________ > clug-talk mailing list > [email protected] > http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca > Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) > **Please remove these lines when replying > _______________________________________________ clug-talk mailing list [email protected] http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) **Please remove these lines when replying
